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had a few ideas about this recently and decided to share. Let's see if we can get a good list going on possible meanings.

if you are wise and found the blaze...
sometimes people start talking about owls here, or elephants. if elephants, "in the wood" could mean "in the trunk" which would play nicely with some tree trunk pictures we've all seen.

FF has said he wants to die where the chest is. What if "in the wood" is a reference to coffin? That's a new one that just occurred to me this morning. I don't think I've seen it before. In the book, most uses of the word "brave" correspond with facing death.

Both of these would be symbolic of course. . .
Literally, you should probably be near some trees.

thoughts?
(12-02-2015, 10:54 AM)LostFound Wrote: [ -> ]had a few ideas about this recently and decided to share. Let's see if we can get a good list going on possible meanings.

if you are wise and found the blaze...
sometimes people start talking about owls here, or elephants. if elephants, "in the wood" could mean "in the trunk" which would play nicely with some tree trunk pictures we've all seen.

FF has said he wants to die where the chest is. What if "in the wood" is a reference to coffin? That's a new one that just occurred to me this morning. I don't think I've seen it before. In the book, most uses of the word "brave" correspond with facing death.

Both of these would be symbolic of course. . .
Literally, you should probably be near some trees.

thoughts?
Yes , i 'wood' have to agree .. did he not say.. 'it could be scorched ' ?
(12-02-2015, 10:54 AM)LostFound Wrote: [ -> ]had a few ideas about this recently and decided to share. Let's see if we can get a good list going on possible meanings.

if you are wise and found the blaze...
sometimes people start talking about owls here, or elephants. if elephants, "in the wood" could mean "in the trunk" which would play nicely with some tree trunk pictures we've all seen.

FF has said he wants to die where the chest is. What if "in the wood" is a reference to coffin? That's a new one that just occurred to me this morning. I don't think I've seen it before. In the book, most uses of the word "brave" correspond with facing death.

Both of these would be symbolic of course. . .
Literally, you should probably be near some trees.

thoughts?

TTOTC Brave references:

"All of the bravery was in my talk and I knew that sooner or later I was
gonna get mine."

"The F-1 00 Misty forward air controllers flying out of Phu Cat, South Vietnam, were just as brave and the Hanoi Hilton was full of them."

"Is it fair that no one recalls where those brave French soldiers fell and are now interred in that remote jungle clearing, hidden from life for a million sunsets?"

"If you are brave and in the wood"

"I admired him for making such a sensible and brave decision."

on wood

Yes. I rather expect there are trees somewhere around it . A few meanings of "in the wood" that have been floated over the years are (i)in the saddle, (ii)violently insane, (iii)with an erection. Some dictionaries define being in the wood or woods as being in a stand of trees that is smaller than a forest, so "in the wood" could possibly mean you are NOT in a forest! (When I was a kid living in the suburbs of a major city we would go and play in the "woods." We didn't call our woods "forest.") "out of the woods" is used to mean "out of danger" so perhaps "in the wood" could mean "in danger." I strongly recommend you keep your mind open. A lot of places out here were named in languages that most modern Americans are not familiar with. Even Spanish is problematic. If you ask google to translate "Chama" it returns the Portugese definition of "flame." babylon gives spanish meanings as "(slang) kid, youngster (slang) (Slang) smoke, inhale and exhale tobacco smoke."
But "Chama" is a Tewa word meaning "fighting place" presumably because over the centuries there was a great deal of fighting in the lands around the Rio Chama. I have numerous close friends from Spanish speaking countries. They are almost never able to help me understand New Mexican place names unless they do research here: http://www.rae.es and even then they frequently come up empty handed. There are books on place names in each of the four states on the TFTW map as well as books on Indian place names in the Southwest and stuff like that.
I believe worth the cold and in the wood is just describing the chest. The cold bronze and the interior of wood. I think this is in the poem for if the chest is found in a thousand years, and that person doesn't exactly know what they are looking for.

And as always it could be a double meaning cause no one knows but Forrest.
All the specific words in the poem could be a double meaning. Like using last names for meek as well as the definition and any other meaning or anagram. If he wrote that poem over a long span of 15 years. He may have his own definition for each word along with its etymology, true definition, and possible other word plays, with each word or phrase in the poem. I think of Van Gogh when I hear "the end is ever drawing nigh". The artist is also associated with cutting his left ear, and drawing/painting a picture of the night. T" is the first letter of the next line that could be continued for the word Night. "The end is ever drawing night. Van Gogh could be the end here. Did he commit suicide?
"in the wood"...

For me, at it's core, the meaning is simply that the apprentice/searcher has journeyed through the stages of the poem/life and has arrived, both physically and spiritually...to a place like the center of a tree...at the "heart" of it all.
(12-02-2015, 10:54 AM)LostFound Wrote: [ -> ]had a few ideas about this recently and decided to share. Let's see if we can get a good list going on possible meanings.

if you are wise and found the blaze...
sometimes people start talking about owls here, or elephants. if elephants, "in the wood" could mean "in the trunk" which would play nicely with some tree trunk pictures we've all seen.

FF has said he wants to die where the chest is. What if "in the wood" is a reference to coffin? That's a new one that just occurred to me this morning. I don't think I've seen it before. In the book, most uses of the word "brave" correspond with facing death.

Both of these would be symbolic of course. . .
Literally, you should probably be near some trees.

thoughts?

Interesting that you should bring this up LF...While researching an older thread, I noticed a little spot on GE labeled "La Caja"...This translates in English to "the box" or "the coffin"...Looks like a rock formation...

Why would this small dot on a map carry a special label?...Just one of those little chance finds?...This place is due North of Santa Fe about 40 km or about 25 miles, just NW of Cundiyo, NM...Wonder if anyone has ventured there?...It is sorta isolated, no human trails...

While I'm not one in the NM camp as the location of the chest, if I was in this area it would definitely be a place I would want to go check out just for kicks...I can see how the lines of the poem would fit as locating this spot, even the 'blaze' if you consider the 'blaze' to be the path to the chest...Your effort(climbing) will be worth the cold(death metaphor) for climbing into a coffin?...Maybe one must be 'brave' to climb to the top of the formation and 'looking quickly down'(in a crack?), climb down into the coffin(in the wood) to retrieve the chest?...Hey, this sounds too good to be true...LOL...

So, on the outside chance someone wishes to take a walk about and gets lucky, how about a 10% finder fee?...Any token would be appreciated however...Oh, and give f back his bracelet please...

Sam
"In the wood" is most likely to be taken literally IMHO. He is making it clear you need to be brave to venture into that wooded area. Perhaps its a long walk, has obstacles to pass, hills to climb but not necessarily dangerous as such.

Is the chest covered with wood? Maybe. If you wanted to hide something from the present generation but have it revealed at a later time for future generations then wood make sense. We Know it will rot and be eaten away by insects so it could reveal its prize within a decade or two. He has said its not in a tree though so maybe under a fallen tree or under a pile of wood.

Worth the cold has been discussed many times. There are only a few things that are cold in the summer heat. Bronze is not cold if its in a warm surrounding. Water and more specifically fast flowing rivers fed from melting snow and ice are typically very cold even during mid-summer. Only other thing I can think of are caves (especially deep ones) which are known to have a cold, damp atmosphere. Some places are so high up they remain on the cool side even during summer but you would have to be 12K ft or higher but we know the chest is under 10K.
I clearly see multiple meanings... how else would fenn write a masterpiece so brilliant.
Just a crazy thought but if you saw National Treasure 2, remember the Resolute Desk? Could the poem lead to something similar. Ben Gates was brave and in the wood.
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