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In one afternoon
07-10-2014, 10:20 AM,
#1
In one afternoon
FF answered in a question from Jenny's posted on 6/19 :



I made two trips from my car to the hiding place and it was done in one afternoon.f



I just wanted to see if I could get some opinions on something. He made 2 trips to hide the TC. Easy, understandable, where he hid it is not very far from where he parked. And he finished the deed in one afternoon. OK. Does that answer also imply he returned to his house/hotel room in the same afternoon? I think that it most likely does include driving home. How bout you?
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07-10-2014, 10:35 AM,
#2
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No, it doesn't imply he returned to his house/hotel in the same afternoon - after all he <i>didn't</i> say that in what he wrote. Don't add or take away from what he says or writes, since that keeps wild theories under control. As for how long he was gone, I don't think you'll get a straight answer from Mr. Fenn.
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07-10-2014, 11:11 AM,
#3
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The question he was answering was "did you make both trips in one day?" So he is answering yes not just one day but one afternoon. Everybody gets to have their own opinion. I'm not judging, just curious. Unless he was camping he had to go somewhere, home, hotel, airport, ect.
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07-10-2014, 12:08 PM,
#4
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<b>Quote from admin on July 10, 2014, 12:42 pm</b>

how long as an afternoon? I don't think it took him more than a half hour to do this unless he had to dig a hole, but even then I doubt it would take an ENTIRE afternoon. My thought is more that he either did something in that spot when he hid it....or he's just sort of misleading because it was "afternoon", but not the ENTIRE afternoon.



Anyone confused? Good Topic.
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I made two trips from my car to the hiding place and it was done in one afternoon.f



So steph he went there and then did not hide it or went there and hid it and took it back or he went there and really hid something. So unless he is lying is this not another little positive for it actually been hid?



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07-10-2014, 12:19 PM,
#5
In one afternoon
In my search areas Forrest could get to his hiding spot with half his treasure between 5 minutes minimum and 30 minutes maximum. Allowing 20 minutes on each trip to place the chest and set it up just the way he wanted it plus another 15 minutes to rest and ponder before and after each trip would give a total of 5X4 + 40 + 15X5 = 135 minutes minimum, and 30X4 + 40 + 15X5 = 235 minutes maximum. So, 2 hours and 15 minutes minimum and 3 hours and 55 minutes maximum. If he had to wait for anyone else in the area to leave then it would have taken longer.



If the nearest motel to the hiding spot is between 2 and 3 hours away (for my area) then he probably would have driven to the motel on a given day, stayed overnight, left the motel with the chest in the mid-morning, arriving at the site in time to eat his sandwich and then begin his trips to the hiding spot. Before 4:30 pm he would be done and heading back to his motel, arriving no later than 7:30 pm.



In an email to me in response to a question concerning taxes on the finder of the chest, Forrest said the finder could deduct his motel costs as an expense against those taxes, thus inferring that you would probably be staying in a motel.
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07-10-2014, 02:20 PM,
#6
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Buddy, I believe his "one afternoon" did not include vehicle driving time. Why do you say he hid it not very far from where he parked? And why bother to bring a sandwhich with you if it was so close? you should see the thread entitled "Afternoon Delight" started June24th, 2014 under Breakingnews/From forest. If that is an accurate quote as you wrote it, he tells you the two trips from car to hiding place took one afternoon. There is no implied travel time in his statements. Check out the thread and see what you think, you can answer on either thread, dosen't matter.

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07-10-2014, 02:45 PM,
#7
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<b>Quote from trigace on July 10, 2014, 1:19 pm</b>



In an email to me in response to a question concerning taxes on the finder of the chest, Forrest said the finder could deduct his motel costs as an expense against those taxes, thus inferring that you would probably be staying in a motel.
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I guess travel expenses to get to and from the search area would be deductible too then. Sweet!



mdavis19
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07-10-2014, 04:31 PM,
#8
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You all do know he has a travel trailer right? LOL

Shhh they aren't listening.
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07-10-2014, 05:05 PM,
#9
In one afternoon
So we know he hid it in one afternoon. I guess it could vary some but I would take to mean starting around noon or after lunch ish and going till 4 4:30 5 ish. In that time he made, what we know for sure, 2 trips from his car to the hidey spot and back. That much we know for sure. If you want to tie in 'people have been within 500 feet.' Then I'm looking for a spot within 500 feet of a river where people go rafting by having a wonderful time. And look any of you can slam me all you want I think he leaves his house, drives there, drops off the goodies, and he drove back home safe and sound with his Jeep Cherokee w/purple heart plates a little over 40 pounds lighter, all in time for dinner. Just MHO. And it may or may not have been Dec. 20 when he did it.
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07-10-2014, 06:33 PM,
#10
In one afternoon
I'm not going to slam you, buddy. I'm way ahead of you on this. One of my early solutions was just what you describe. I figured people could float by it all day on rafts and kayaks, 500 feet away from the treasure and never know it. I found a really good (I thought) spot that matched my understanding of the clues at the time. I was a noob. Dams were still in play and everyone was talking about brown trout. I found a spot downstream from a dam and world-class trout fishing waters, that was a popular "put in" site for white water rafters. The spot seemed to have it all. High-water, worth the cold, in the wood, brave, everything. I found a great site, just down the gorge from the put-in, about 500 feet up a dry (no paddle) side canyon that would make the perfect hiding place. The side canyon even had a name suggestive of hidden treasure. It all looked so perfect from Google Earth. It looked like an easy hike along the river from the parking lot at the put-in to the side canyon.



I timed my visit for low water so I could more easily hike along the bottom of the gorge to the suspected hiding spot and wade cross the river if necessary. The conditions were as optimal as they could be. When I arrived at the spot I found it to be much more rugged than it looked on the maps and Google Earth. What looked like an easy hike on the maps turned out to be pretty much impossible. The river bed was choked with slippery, slime-covered, rocks and boulders, with a sheer, vertical rock face on one side and a narrow, impassible brush-choked gravel bank on the other. I managed to bushwhack maybe 1/4 of the way to my suspected hiding place before giving up and deciding there was no way an 80 year old man carrying a heavy pack could have made it through there and back twice. He would have needed a couple of other guys with machetes with him to hack a path through the heavy brush on the bank of the river. I guess he could have launched a boat or raft from the put-in at high water and went up the side canyon to hide the treasure. Still not convinced that is something an 80-year old could have done. I'm not going to say exactly where this spot is. Even though dams are now out of the picture, it is so far downstream from the dam in question that it may not be an issue. So many other things lined up so perfectly for that spot. Although it is not one of my higher priority sites these days, I want to return someday and see if it is possible to take a 4X4 down the side canyon from the top of the gorge. There are other easier to get to side canyons I'd also like to explore. It is also one of the most beautiful spots I have ever seen. I'd go back again just for that.



Rivers with rafters floating by 500 feet away from the treasure still figure prominently in most of my current solutions. It also fits nicely with people being within 500 feet of it, but it not being near any human-made trail.



mdavis19
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