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Haha, yeah been that way for a while. These days it's all about being a chase personality and developing a following. I will give Mike one thing, seems he got rid of Davis.

Here's my advice for The Second Generation:

If you want to get anywhere in the chase, you need to have a portfolio full of colorful ideas for each of the search states that you willfully share on the forums. Of course, to do this you need to be visible on all forums: hoD, ChaseChat, Harry's Ass Hat Association, The Home Of Recycled ideas, etc. being banned from any of them is bad for marketing, though not entirely game over as Sacha has illustrated.

Access to Forrest is a plus. All "lead searchers" have active relationships with Forrest.

A blog helps, a vlog is better - especially if you have other attributes that searchers find attractive. Sure didn’t hurt Cynthia to celebrate in her birthday suit. Sorry Mike, the beard is a warning sign. Hey, I keep up with current events and I'm well aware of the profiling policies in Georgia. A bubbly demeanor is a must, sorry, TS, CF, Toby, Ricky, and a bunch of others. Kooky solves are a major turn off, sorry Andy, Toby, Jay, and a bunch of others.

All published solves or clue solutions need to be pretty, concise, easy to follow, packageable solves. People especially love things like the Unsinkable Molly Brown home in Leadville(even though she also had a mansion in Denver), The Ranger Lamar Brown cabin in YNP, of course, Ojo Caliente is great because there's one in NM and WY, Taos, Cimarron, Brown's Canyon etc all of these are excellent solves to use to build your following. Other major turn-offs are religion or God solves, sorry Pam, CF, and ciphers are pretty contentious - though if they weren't so demanding of mental gymnastics they would probably be more attractive.

All in all, the best advice I can give is dress nice, comb your hair, don't say anything to piss people off - it doesn't matter who you are, and dressing like a hound isn’t all that bad. Be smart and original(Forrest especially likes this), and don't forget to market...always market. Oh, Forrest reminds us to change our underwear, you never known when there's gonna be an accident. Get a good graphics person for your logo's and video introductions etc. After all, Forrest said that the one who can find the treasure will be positive in their attitude, and deliberate in their actions.
(05-15-2020, 12:50 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: [ -> ]Haha, yeah been that way for a while. These days it's all about being a chase personality and developing a following. I will give Mike one thing, seems he got rid of Davis.

Here's my advice for The Second Generation:

If you want to get anywhere in the chase, you need to have a portfolio full of colorful ideas for each of the search states that you willfully share on the forums. Of course, to do this you need to be visible on all forums: hoD, ChaseChat, Harry's Ass Hat Association, The Home Of Recycled ideas, etc. being banned from any of them is bad for marketing, though not entirely game over as Sacha has illustrated.

Access to Forrest is a plus. All "lead searchers" have active relationships with Forrest.

A blog helps, a vlog is better - especially if you have other attributes that searchers find attractive. Sorry Mike, the beard is a warning sign. Hey, I keep up with current events and I'm well aware of the profiling policies in Georgia. A bubbly demeanor is a must, sorry, TS, CF, Toby, Ricky, and a bunch of others. Kooky solves are a major turn off, sorry Andy, Toby, Jay, and a bunch of others.

All published solves or clue solutions need to be pretty, concise, easy to follow, packageable solves. People especially love things like the Unsinkable Molly Brown home in Leadville(even though she also had a mansion in Denver), The Ranger Lamar Brown cabin in YNP, of course, Ojo Caliente is great because there's one in NM and WY, Taos, Cimarron, Brown's Canyon etc all of these are excellent solves to use to build your following. Other major turn-offs are religion or God solves, sorry Pam, CF, and ciphers are pretty contentious - though if they weren't so demanding of mental gymnastics they would probably be more attractive.

All in all, the best advice I can give is dress nice, comb your hair, don't say anything to piss people off - it doesn't matter who you are, and dressing like a hound isn’t all that bad. Be smart and original(Forrest especially likes this), and don't forget to market...always market. Oh, Forrest reminds us to change our underwear, you never known when there's gonna be an accident. Get a good graphics person for your logo's and video introductions etc. After all, Forrest said that the one who can find the treasure will be positive in their attitude, and deliberate in their actions.

Your suggested rules I have broken thus far:

Quote:If you want to get anywhere in the chase, you need to have a portfolio full of colorful ideas for each of the search states that you willfully share on the forums.

While I sprinkle some things about some of my solves around here and there, I tend to hold back on most of the ideas I think are pretty good or promising. Why create my own competition? How would that benefit me personally in any way?

Quote:Of course, to do this you need to be visible on all forums: hoD, ChaseChat, Harry's Ass Hat Association, The Home Of Recycled ideas, etc. being banned from any of them is bad for marketing, though not entirely game over as Sacha has illustrated.

I'm only really active on Harry's, sometimes on THOR, rarely on HoD, almost never on MW, and mostly I just respond when summoned here on CC. And I've been a guest on a couple of Marathons and after-parties.

I'm not in competition with anyone that I know of because I see the Chase community much like a classic punk rock concert from decades ago, a place where a lot of weirdos gather to out weirdo each other.

In that context, I'm a mosher, you'll find me in the mosh pit rather than just hanging around the mosh pit gawking at those actually moshing in it. I have no desire to be starring on center stage, as long as I can climb up on the stage occasionally to jump from it back into the mosh pit.

Most of the stars on stage recognize that they need visible/vocal fans like me to liven up their shows with my comments, good or bad, as the worst thing that can happen to a star or rising star is to be ignored. The second worst is is to have a silent audience. Relevancy is everything.

Quote:Access to Forrest is a plus. All "lead searchers" have active relationships with Forrest.

I don't have to be center stage or have a "Lead" role to contribute some positive influence on the Chase. Every movie star is dependant on co-stars, supporting actors, and extras. It takes a whole cast working together with each performing their own parts well to make a good movie good.

I think it is important that I know my place, and I think I do, but more important that others know my place as well, and I think enough do.

Quote:A blog helps, a vlog is better - especially if you have other attributes that searchers find attractive.[/qoute]

I'm just too lazy to want to put in the amount of work that would require. I'm in the Chase as an escape, to have fun and maybe some adventure or misadventure. Not to add more commitments and responsibilities to my already heavy burden.

[quote]Sorry Mike, the beard is a warning sign.

I'm not going to stop being me for you or anyone else. There is only one person who can get away with telling me what to do and that's my wife. Big Grin She tolerates my beard only because she is insanely jealous and she knows I will shave it off if she ever asks me to.

Quote:Hey, I keep up with current events and I'm well aware of the profiling policies in Georgia.

Georgia is second only to Florida for being the largest state east of the Mississippi. For those who don't know the south, there are four Georgia's:

1) The City of Atlanta GA, Georgia
2) The Metro-Atlanta Suburbs, Georgia
3) Rural Flatland South Georgia, Georgia
4) Rural Foothills and Mountains, Georgia

Each one of these Georgia's is very culturally different and distinct from the others. And I think you are also confusing the twisted personal attitude of a former Law Enforcement Officer and his son who think they have a right to act as legal police authority with how non-LEO Georgian's would have handled that incident.

But it was a good lesson in the reality of what to expect when you brandish a firearm and expect those you point it at to comply with your instructions the way they do in the movies. Hint: They don't. Lesson: Never point a gun at anyone you are not already in the process of shooting. Don't even let them see or know that you are armed. Only if you have to shoot them for some reason do you draw your firearm from concealment as part of the process of shooting them.

What really went wrong is deliberately confronting someone you suspect of being a criminal yourself. That's not your job unless you saw them commit a felony, only then you can do what you need to do to them. That was not this case. This case was an aberration to how most Georgian's think and act.

But speaking of profiling,

Quote:Sorry Mike, the beard is a warning sign.

Isn't that you CF, profiling me? Hmmmm... Wink

Quote:A bubbly demeanor is a must, sorry, TS, CF, Toby, Ricky, and a bunch of others. [/qoute]

I'm a bubbly person too, acids sometimes bubble too you know.

[quote]Kooky solves are a major turn off, sorry Andy, Toby, Jay, and a bunch of others.


Well, any solve that doesn't help everyone else find the chest tends to be a major turn off too.

Quote:All published solves or clue solutions need to be pretty, concise, easy to follow, packageable solves. People especially love things like the Unsinkable Molly Brown home in Leadville(even though she also had a mansion in Denver), The Ranger Lamar Brown cabin in YNP, of course, Ojo Caliente is great because there's one in NM and WY, Taos, Cimarron, Brown's Canyon etc all of these are excellent solves to use to build your following.


I would rather have kept those as secrets to improve my own Chase advantage than share them to build and/or grow a "following."

Quote:Other major turn-offs are religion or God solves, sorry Pam, CF,...


When I learned that the hard way, and I have Larsonist to thank for teaching me that lesson, I stopped sharing those. Pearls before swine is a bible verse the gaddamned heathens in the Chase wouldn't know pig ship about. Furk them all.

Quote:...and ciphers are pretty contentious - though if they weren't so demanding of mental gymnastics they would probably be more attractive.


I don't rule them out, I just accept that if that is way to solve the poem then I am not and never was a contender after all.

Quote:All in all, the best advice I can give is dress nice, comb your hair, don't say anything to piss people off - it doesn't matter who you are, and dressing like a hound isn’t all that bad.


Boring.


Quote:Be smart and original(Forrest especially likes this)...[/qoute]

How smart is it to let everyone know exactly how smart you really are?

Answer: Not very

[quote]..and don't forget to market...always market.

Is counter-marketing not an advanced strategic marketing tactic?

Quote:Oh, Forrest reminds us to change our underwear, you never known when there's gonna be an accident.


I've always considered it more important to change into clean underwear after having an "accident" rather than before having an "accident."

Quote:Get a good graphics person for your logo's and video introductions etc. After all, Forrest said that the one who can find the treasure will be positive in their attitude, and deliberate in their actions.

My beard is my trademark, it needs no introduction.

Which is more positive:

Someone who is positive that they will find the chest because they simply can't comprehend how long the odds are against them?

-or-

Someone who has done the math and fully understands the scale of the impossibility that they might ever find the chest someday and searches anyway, not in denial of the odds, but in spite of them?

I call the former delusional and the latter a real contender. Which kind of searcher are you?
Hi Mike, I think you missed my point. According Toby's 2019 survey 33.9% of people who consider themselves searchers have never been botg, yet 54.8% think they have between a 0 and 25% chance of finding the chest with 18.4% of those thinking they have 0% chance. 8.5% think the chest will never be found. These are unfair comparisons, but the responses are from the same pool of people.

I think this points to another opportunity, other than actually searching for the chest, for some people who call themselves searchers but may have realized that they will never find the chest if they ever even go looking for it once. Become a Chase influencer. You should ask your kids about influencers. These people have created something completely out of nothing. Kinda like what Forrest did, but with the thing that Forrest wants them to put down - yep, texting machine. Many of these people make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year doing (what I consider) stupid shit on the internet. But how stupid is it to bank that kind of money from stupid shit. Obviously, I'm the stupid one. I just don't really give a shit.

Toby, on the other hand figured this out first. He was the first one with the resources and experience to capitalize on the Fenn craze. It's unfortunate that he doesn't have the quality material that he promotes, but I don't think that's really a problem. People pay him to ask questions on his channel! Remember, stupid shit = $100,000's. My advice was for the second generation "searcher" who falls in the 54.8% who might be better off searching for material for their vlog rather than for the treasure.

It takes personality, patience, perseverance, and some tech know how, but what a cool friggin' job...Chase Influencer!

We've gotten way beyond solving the poem and finding the treasure, donchathink? What are we all doing here? Top Secret is right. Forrest has given up on first generation searchers.

As far as profiling goes, yes, I was profiling you.
(05-15-2020, 04:56 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: [ -> ]Top Secret is right. Forrest has given up on first generation searchers.
Good advice synopsis for the next generation of searchers, CF. Yes, it is time to hang up the boots (on the ground) and pass the laces of sound advise. As we flush out the old generation of failed searchers, my advise for the new minds is to avoid the Vlogs with the utmost discipline. Vlogs owners admitted their defeat long ago and now only exist to capitalize from new lost chasers for personal benefit and greed. Charging money to recycling old failed ideas is a shame. Those who can avoid the vlog influence may have a chance, otherwise they will just become the next old failed generation.
Sure, l’arsehole, whatever you say. Are you sad ‘cause you didn’t get an invitation to the party?
(05-16-2020, 11:14 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, l’arsehole, whatever you say. Are you sad ‘cause you didn’t get an invitation to the party?

All insults aside, I do find it ironic that only Mindy is man enough to even try to meet the Lurker face to face... Big Grin
Hey, that’s great. Mindy is searching for material for her vlog. I think you have a lot to offer. Go for it.
(05-17-2020, 09:23 AM)crazyfamily Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, that’s great. Mindy is searching for material for her vlog. I think you have a lot to offer. Go for it.


Lol. No, no, no—I’m not searching for material— I have enough topics to keep me busy for years. Smile


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(05-17-2020, 03:06 AM)LurkerMike Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-16-2020, 11:14 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, l’arsehole, whatever you say. Are you sad ‘cause you didn’t get an invitation to the party?

All insults aside, I do find it ironic that only Mindy is man enough to even try to meet the Lurker face to face... Big Grin

This is kind of how I pictured the meet up between you and Mindy, in my head Smile ...

https://youtu.be/BMBil4FkLKc
(05-17-2020, 01:01 PM)Seeker9 Wrote: [ -> ]This is kind of how I pictured the meet up between you and Mindy, in my head Smile ...

https://youtu.be/BMBil4FkLKc

Yea, if I had a 60-pound costume made from real lion furs, you can bet I would wear it to show it off.

Cowardly or not, the Cowardly Lion's costume remains the most expensive prop ever worn by a male actor. One of the two still known to exist sold for more than $3 million around 15 years or so ago if I recall correctly.

But come on now Seeker9, surely you can see how I could play the role of the Wizard at least equally as well? Smile