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White....You do need to have the location nailed down, and your solution doesn't do this. Fenn specifically said he could not find the treasure using your information. You could wander around the Shoshoni National Forest for years and never find this thing with your solve. You are a really smart guy....so think about it like a solution to a complicated math problem. You got some of it right, but then you went off on a tangent and your answer is wrong. How wrong I don't know, but you will never find the treasure with the wrong answer, even if part of your solution is correct. Back to the drawing board, White....
Having the right National Forest in the right State isn't a bad start for a solution being correct. This is compared to Searchers considering every square inch of land in the Rocky Mountains within four States of the US, often hundreds of miles away from the right area.

The directions I've revealed take Searchers to a point within this National Forest, but the end part is unclear.

I know the answers are correct, the method of revealing the directions is correct, the directions are correct but part of the directions isn't that clear. Providing correct information to Searchers and getting them close to the treasure chest will make it more likely that one Searcher will find the chest by scanning an area I haven't or by improving on my interpretation of the unclear part of the direction.
White Knight, when will you know for sure that you got the first clue right?
I already do. The answer to the first clue provides a Northerly starting co-ordinate. The answer to the second clue provides a westerly starting co-ordinate. This is why the first two answers have a similar letter structure - they are designed to reveal a similar phrase that is used to get to the co-ordinates.

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Well White...you have a big fan....Holly. I pointed her out as an example of why your cipher isn't the correct solution. She believes the treasure is south of NM in The middle of Texas, below 1,000 feet on a green at a golf course. No mountains anywhere around and she got here using your cipher, White. I have been very vocal about your cipher because it literally can lead people anywhere. Holly now has her own blog....lolol....Thanks to you White....
I can't be any more precise in my solution. giving exact starting co-ordinates in Wyoming and directions leading from those co-ordinates.

I've explained how the answers to the clues provide the directions and the starting co-ordinates. This in my view is all rock solid. What is open to interpretation is the last part of the directions within the Shoshone National forest in Wyoming.

However, I'm not one to stop others discarding some of my evidence and conclusions and putting together something different even if to me it does seem a little wild and a bit illogical.
(11-04-2015, 01:14 PM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]I already do. The answer to the first clue provides a Northerly starting co-ordinate. The answer to the second clue provides a westerly starting co-ordinate. This is why the first two answers have a similar letter structure - they are designed to reveal a similar phrase that is used to get to the co-ordinates.

So Forrest Fenn would be wrong when he said this recently...

Do expect that people will somehow *know* for sure once they have found the first clue?
No, many people have found the first clue but they didn’t know it. Until someone finds the treasure they will not know for sure that they have discovered the first clue.
(11-04-2015, 06:05 PM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]I can't be any more precise in my solution. giving exact starting co-ordinates in Wyoming and directions leading from those co-ordinates.

I've explained how the answers to the clues provide the directions and the starting co-ordinates. This in my view is all rock solid. What is open to interpretation is the last part of the directions within the Shoshone National forest in Wyoming.

However, I'm not one to stop others discarding some of my evidence and conclusions and putting together something different even if to me it does seem a little wild and a bit illogical.
In order to find the treasure one has to discard all of your evidence and conclusions. The treasure is not in the state of Wyoming in my view. You can't find the treasure yourself using your own solution and you want people to believe you're right?
To me it's obvious that the evidence and conclusions in my solution are correct, What I've provided to Searchers gets them very close to the treasure chest. Remember the majority of Searchers are milling around in New Mexico - three States away from the actual location.

So I can't get the last part of the directions right. Well I haven't done too badly.

The logic of what you're saying about me not finding the chest is like saying to a javelin thrower if you can throw the javelin 110m you must be able to throw it 120m.

It's a free world so people can express their own views and interpretations but my conviction is that no one should discard any part of the method and basis of my solution but they should try to work out a different interpretation for the last part of the directions.
You must be wading through the truth, why not immerse yourself in it?
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