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(12-02-2015, 08:01 PM)deb Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you guys keep talking to him? If people stop talking to him he will fade away. His armour will rust , his sword will get corroded, his horse will die. Just don't feed the publicity seeking hustlers.

I know what you mean Deb. Just having fun with him. But also, that's the only way to have him debunk his own solution by saying his first clue is illogical.
Steph, I'll give you $100 to pull the plug on this pos
(12-02-2015, 06:35 PM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]I said very recently that it’s time for you two Trolls to cut your losses to avoid any further embarrassment or humiliation.

I am embarrassed for you. Here's a suggestion. Stop saying "I'm right." It's tiresome, uninteresting, and annoying. I understand you want to sell your book in order to recoup your losses and all, but you only annoy people when you say that. Moreover it is a virtual mathematical certainty that you are wrong. Claiming over and over "I am right" makes you look stupid since if you were "right" you would have the box. I know. You think you're right except for the last little bit. Everybody thinks that. The ones who insist "I'm right" and have actually gone to their site as you have simply look stupid. Repeating it over and over and over makes you look all the worse. The site does have a use but if it becomes sufficiently unpleasant more people will leave. You make it unpleasant. Try not to. I normally don't read your posts because they are sterile and vacuous. Be that as it may, shit happens, as it did today when I accidentally read one.
(12-02-2015, 06:35 PM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]Njfl and Fundament,

You are both so full of it it’s untrue. It’s like listening to two children making up a story then trying to convince themselves that it's true.

Richard was trying to give a simple summary of the solution to listeners. He didn’t quite get it all right though he’d grasped the concept of overlaying keywords on text to unlock the riddle.

Overlaying a ‘code-word’ (in his words) to solve the riddle is kind of right but at one point I think he said I overlaid a ‘codeword’ on the text of the poem which isn’t correct It should have been on the text of the answers but I guess such distinctions would be difficult to get across to listeners who weren’t involved in the Chase.

Richard also seemed to think I was a famous science fiction author from the UK as did a couple of Searchers who post on Dal’s blog. They must all have done some loose searching on the Internet and concluded there could only be one Andy Briggs in the UK who’d written a book.

One of the Searchers I mentioned above requested from Richard a copy of the two emails I sent to him. It was something of a surprise to myself that Richard forwarded these emails and the contents ended up posted on Dal’s blog.

Richard and the Searcher didn’t cover themselves with glory there as my private emails should not have been made public particularly as they contained my home phone number and other personal details.

But, the result was that the contents of both emails was posted on Dal’s site so you two Trolls can 'pass the Vaseline to the non-Troll Searchers then bend over'. You won’t be able to reinvent the contents of the emails.

I said very recently that it’s time for you two Trolls to cut your losses to avoid any further embarrassment or humiliation. After your last two posts I think that’s long overdue.
Temper, temper, there. You sound just like SlickNickel and we all know what his fate was. You're the one who should be embarrassed. In just one interview Richard used the words, " average crackpot and not completely coo coo" when referring to you.
The main problem you Trolls have got and the difference with my solution is that Forrest said I’m right – ‘he’s figured a lot of it out’. I would have thought Forrest’s opinion was quite important.

Fundament while looking for Troll angles has also now said I’ve got a key part of the solution right’.

So by saying I’ve got it all wrong you’re going against what these people are saying. Can you see the contradiction?

When someone loses an argument all they can do is resort to name-calling so the Trolls are now moving into this phase.

By the number of hits on this thread I don’t see people leaving. But the thread would improve if it contained more reasoned discussion and eliminated the monotonous Troll stirring.

superfly

(12-03-2015, 07:26 AM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]The main problem you Trolls have got and the difference with my solution is that Forrest said I’m right – ‘he’s figured a lot of it out’. I would have thought Forrest’s opinion was quite important.

Fundament while looking for Troll angles has also now said I’ve got a key part of the solution right’.

So by saying I’ve got it all wrong you’re going against what these people are saying. Can you see the contradiction?

When someone loses an argument all they can do is resort to name-calling so the Trolls are now moving into this phase.

By the number of hits on this thread I don’t see people leaving. But the thread would improve if it contained more reasoned discussion and eliminated the monotonous Troll stirring.

Yes Andy...you "figured a lot of it out"....forrest said on national radio....and you DID...just look up the words! You turned most of it into useless "figures". Literally. And you were not even able to decipher that comment. There is 100% ZERO chance that if you WERE correct F would have told you on national radio. That would be like giving YOU (who is privy to what secret stuff you've sent him on your ideas) an advantage by confirming you are right. F does not confirm or deny anyone's solution for this exact reason. They would have to search less. If YOU or ANYONE believes he does this you're out of your mind....the only way he could even comfortably make such comment is if he is 100% confident you are too ignorant to ever have any hope of finding the chest....in which case it's safe for him to make such comment as he will never be accused of helping you since you will never find it. Period. Think about the nature/logic of the decision if you can get off your soapbox for four seconds and look at the dynamics instead of yourself. You "figured" most of the poem. Is 100% correct. Unfortunately the "figures" wouldn't even help forrest himself find any treasure....heck, they can't even help you understand Forrest's response- see the problem?

(12-03-2015, 07:26 AM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]The main problem you Trolls have got and the difference with my solution is that Forrest said I’m right – ‘he’s figured a lot of it out’. I would have thought Forrest’s opinion was quite important.

Fundament while looking for Troll angles has also now said I’ve got a key part of the solution right’.

So by saying I’ve got it all wrong you’re going against what these people are saying. Can you see the contradiction?

When someone loses an argument all they can do is resort to name-calling so the Trolls are now moving into this phase.

By the number of hits on this thread I don’t see people leaving. But the thread would improve if it contained more reasoned discussion and eliminated the monotonous Troll stirring.

Yes Andy...you "figured most of it out"....forrest said on national radio....and you DID...just look up the words! You turned most of it into useless "figures". Literally. And you were not even able to decipher that comment. There is 100% ZERO chance that if you WERE correct F would have told you on national radio. That would be like giving YOU (who is privy to what secret stuff you've sent him on your ideas) an advantage by confirming you are right. F does not confirm or deny anyone's solution for this exact reason. They would have to search less. If YOU or ANYONE believes he does this you're out of your mind....the only way he could even comfortably make such comment is if he is 100% confident you are too ignorant to ever have any hope of finding the chest....in which case it's safe for him to make such comment as he will never be accused of helping you since you will never find it. Period. Think about the nature/logic of the decision if you can get off your soapbox for four seconds and look at the dynamics instead of yourself. You "figured" most of the poem. Is 100% correct. Unfortunately the "figures" wouldn't even help forrest himself find any treasure....heck, they can't even help you understand Forrest's response- see the problem?
Superfly,

You say ‘F does not confirm or deny anyone's solution’.

Then you're saying he’s denied my solution.

Your still trying some ridiculous interpretation of a simple phrase used by Forrest: ‘I’ve figured it out’ is something to do with diagrams. That’s beyond feeble.

Swallow the pill. Forrest said I've got a lot of the solution right. Jealousy will get you nowhere.

superfly

(12-03-2015, 11:35 AM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]Superfly,

You say ‘F does not confirm or deny anyone's solution’.

Then you're saying he’s denied my solution.

Your still trying some ridiculous interpretation of a simple phrase used by Forrest: ‘I’ve figured it out’ is something to do with diagrams. That’s beyond feeble.

Swallow the pill. Forrest said I've got a lot of the solution right. Jealousy will get you nowhere.


F wouldn't have said that. Period. No jealousy or animosity at all. He would never give one searcher an advantage like that and especially not on national radio. Jealousy would entail me desiring something you have that I do not. Forrest made a comment about your book which I, too, have access to. I like it. But hey, I'm also a realist...and Forrest would not say anyone had it right because it would be a shortcut and give them a "free pass" on their own confidence and shortcut on discounting other ideas. If this is truly Andy you would also understand the mathematics and physics side of logic and be 100% aware that what I am saying is correct without
argument based on logical proofs alone. Instead of making a twit out of yourself.

And claiming that I'm saying he denied your solution because he failed to confirm it?? That's not even a second graders level of logic. That's like saying if I didn't wash my clothes then I must have gotten them dirty. Or if I didn't feed the fish then I starved them. Even a 5 year old would laugh at that argument. And a bunch kind of did... When forrest announced you had "figured" most of the poem and that even he couldn't find his own treasure based on your solution and you jumped up like a moron waving a giant trophy of forrest making a laughing stock out of you for pressuring a radio station to include your name. Are you aware those emails are out too? And not just on Dals? Everyone knows what a pest you are and why F was so delighted to make a laughing stock out of you. It worked too. Look at you...still so proud thinking everyone must be jealous when really anyone can read the information in the book therefor you have nothing they want to be jealous of. And many still don't buy the book as there's a whole page of your comments here and emails to forrest posted under the "reviews" section. Funnier than the book itself and free!!


But waaaaait a second...Andy Briggs is a mathematician. Andy Briggs would already know this....but hey....maybe treasure hunting is a good reason to retire from mathematics if you're unable to understand such simple concepts of negatives and positives. And your emails published emails to forrest reveal what you really are looking for help with...further substantiating the claim that even to yourself the book is a great big rouse to try and figure out what you can't under the guise of something else.
(12-03-2015, 11:35 AM)The White Knight Wrote: [ -> ]Superfly

Swallow the pill. Forrest said I've got a lot of the solution right. Jealousy will get you nowhere.

Hi White Knight!

Yes, he said something like you have a lot of it figured out right? Do you have the exact quote on your blog?
Fainmatte,

Yes the link to the radio show audio file and relevant time slot are given on my blog:

http://treasurehuntsolution.blogspot.co.uk/

The exact quote if I remember rightly is:

‘He’s a pretty bright guy, he’s got a lot of it figured out, I think, maybe’.




Superfly,

Forrest saying I’ve got a lot of it right helps all Searchers in equal measure because my entire solution has been published. It doesn’t give me any advantage.

You just said he denied my solution in your previous post. It’s basic English.

Your aimless rant must be driven by something other than analytical logic.
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