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Dal: why not post this?
11-06-2019, 01:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-06-2019, 01:36 PM by 5GIRLS.)
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Dal: why not post this?
Offline Mongo
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RE: Entering the "Ruin the chase" phase
(08-08-2019, 08:31 PM)crazyfamily Wrote:
What would be even better is the correct solution posted at hoD and no one noticed it.


razyfamily

Actually, the winning solve was given to HoD, and he refused to put it on his web site..

He did say,

“In all my years of searching, I have never seen anything like this”.

A lot of things were then set in motion.

Dal went dark, never to speak of this solve ever again.

He will not speak of, comment, refer, discuss or acknowledge that this solve ever existed to this day. He does have a copy of it.

This is the same solution that I have uncovered, read, understood and finally went to see with my own eyes. (It is not my solution, I’m not that smart)

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I think it should be shared for all to see. Why are you keeping it to yourself??
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11-06-2019, 03:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-06-2019, 04:00 PM by GoldenFrog.)
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RE: Dal: why not post this?
(11-06-2019, 01:35 PM)5GIRLS Wrote: Offline Mongo
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RE: Entering the "Ruin the chase" phase
(08-08-2019, 08:31 PM)crazyfamily Wrote:
What would be even better is the correct solution posted at hoD and no one noticed it.


razyfamily

Actually, the winning solve was given to HoD, and he refused to put it on his web site..
Can I ask, what is the focus word in such a solve?
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11-06-2019, 04:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-06-2019, 04:23 PM by Beavertooth.)
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RE: Dal: why not post this?
A Folsom Falls solve was discussed at length years ago. Excluding all the conspiracy theories, it seemed outside the Rocky Mountains, outside the highlighted map area in TFTW, not really associated with Forrest's Clovis point collection (which the author of the solve claimed was a key reason why the location was "special" to Forrest -- but he confused Clovis with Folsom points), along with a few other weaknesses. Mongo now claims that the reason Forrest picked the spot was because of a subsequent "find" of Folsom points that Forrest made there that became the subject of a dispute. Why someone would want to be buried at a place of dispute, or why Forrest would leave a treasure on someone else's land, eludes me.

The land that includes Folsom Falls is/was privately owned (whoops!), although it was leased to the BLM when the chase started. The lease ran out and the land reverted back to private hands -- and they have eliminated all access to the location. Forrest supposedly thought through his location extensively from a legal standpoint. This would have been a glaring oversight.

There are reasons why Mongo likes the solve. For example, take Forrest's numerical street address in Temple, Texas and divide by 10. Then take that number and draw a northerly semi-circle of that many miles distance from Forrest's house. The circle passes over Folsom Falls. Why you would divide by 10, or assume to use Forrest's house in Santa Fe as the starting point, or even use his Temple, Texas address, would have to be supported in TTOTC. I am not privy to why supporters think that it is justified. It is certainly a remarkable coincidence.

Folsom Falls is interesting because the resulting stream does go underground and then reappear and go underground again. This could qualify as "where warm waters halt", so the solve has some merit.

I have never seen the entire solve, so cannot really comment more about it. I have seen/created solves that are far more directly tied to the poem and TTOTC, so it seems unlikely to me that the Folsom solve is the correct one.

As to why Dal didn't post the solve, it's likely because the original poster was pretty obnoxious about it (he was one of the early people banned from Chase Chat), and started claiming that the chest was removed or never was hidden. My guess is that he pissed off Dal and Forrest.

There is a chance that Mongo is that same early solve creator, who has now made up a story about being a wealthy individual who has hired top talent to review a bunch of solves and concluded the Folsom solve was the "best". So he could be just another troll, or I could be wrong.
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11-06-2019, 04:29 PM,
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RE: Dal: why not post this?
(11-06-2019, 04:22 PM)Beavertooth Wrote: .

There is a chance that Mongo is that same early solve creator, who has now made up a story about being a wealthy individual who has hired top talent to review a bunch of solves and concluded the Folsom solve was the "best". So he could be just another troll, or I could be wrong.

I'm curious: Why do people call a solve the correct one after BOTG, and finding nothing? Wouldn't you think you would need proof?
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11-06-2019, 05:14 PM,
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Dal: why not post this?
I looked at that one too, a long time ago. Forrest loves the romance of Jenkins the cowboy, or whatever his name was, finding the mammoth with a spear point in its ribs. That thing is in the Denver Museum that Forrest is supposed to have indicated was the last clue(where his car was parked).

I don’t even remember why I gave up on that solution, but there was a good reason.


razyfamily
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11-06-2019, 05:36 PM,
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RE: Dal: why not post this?
(11-06-2019, 05:14 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: I looked at that one too, a long time ago. Forrest loves the romance of Jenkins the cowboy, or whatever his name was, finding the mammoth with a spear point in its ribs. That thing is in the Denver Museum that Forrest is supposed to have indicated was the last clue(where his car was parked).

I don’t even remember why I gave up on that solution, but there was a good reason.

Just a clarification: the cowboy found bison bones with Folsom points. Clovis points (older) are usually found with mammoth bones.
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11-06-2019, 06:23 PM,
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Dal: why not post this?
(11-06-2019, 05:36 PM)Beavertooth Wrote:
(11-06-2019, 05:14 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: I looked at that one too, a long time ago. Forrest loves the romance of Jenkins the cowboy, or whatever his name was, finding the mammoth with a spear point in its ribs. That thing is in the Denver Museum that Forrest is supposed to have indicated was the last clue(where his car was parked).

I don’t even remember why I gave up on that solution, but there was a good reason.

Just a clarification: the cowboy found bison bones with Folsom points. Clovis points (older) are usually found with mammoth bones.
Yeah, that’s it. It was Forrest that wanted to find the Mammoth.


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11-06-2019, 06:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-06-2019, 07:31 PM by Seeker9.)
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RE: Dal: why not post this?
(11-06-2019, 04:22 PM)Beavertooth Wrote: A Folsom Falls solve was discussed at length years ago. Excluding all the conspiracy theories, it seemed outside the Rocky Mountains, outside the highlighted map area in TFTW, not really associated with Forrest's Clovis point collection (which the author of the solve claimed was a key reason why the location was "special" to Forrest -- but he confused Clovis with Folsom points), along with a few other weaknesses. Mongo now claims that the reason Forrest picked the spot was because of a subsequent "find" of Folsom points that Forrest made there that became the subject of a dispute. Why someone would want to be buried at a place of dispute, or why Forrest would leave a treasure on someone else's land, eludes me.

The land that includes Folsom Falls is/was privately owned (whoops!), although it was leased to the BLM when the chase started. The lease ran out and the land reverted back to private hands -- and they have eliminated all access to the location. Forrest supposedly thought through his location extensively from a legal standpoint. This would have been a glaring oversight.

There are reasons why Mongo likes the solve. For example, take Forrest's numerical street address in Temple, Texas and divide by 10. Then take that number and draw a northerly semi-circle of that many miles distance from Forrest's house. The circle passes over Folsom Falls. Why you would divide by 10, or assume to use Forrest's house in Santa Fe as the starting point, or even use his Temple, Texas address, would have to be supported in TTOTC. I am not privy to why supporters think that it is justified. It is certainly a remarkable coincidence.

Folsom Falls is interesting because the resulting stream does go underground and then reappear and go underground again. This could qualify as "where warm waters halt", so the solve has some merit.

I have never seen the entire solve, so cannot really comment more about it. I have seen/created solves that are far more directly tied to the poem and TTOTC, so it seems unlikely to me that the Folsom solve is the correct one.

As to why Dal didn't post the solve, it's likely because the original poster was pretty obnoxious about it (he was one of the early people banned from Chase Chat), and started claiming that the chest was removed or never was hidden. My guess is that he pissed off Dal and Forrest.

There is a chance that Mongo is that same early solve creator, who has now made up a story about being a wealthy individual who has hired top talent to review a bunch of solves and concluded the Folsom solve was the "best". So he could be just another troll, or I could be wrong.
I think Slick knew the diffrence between folsom points and clovis points. We had chatted about that. Forrest has or has had more than one paleoindian point collection besides the Fenn Cache. My avatar illustrates this.
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11-06-2019, 07:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-06-2019, 07:08 PM by Chris Yates.)
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RE: Dal: why not post this?
all this talk of folsom falls made me think of putting the poem into a 32 by grid

next thing you know, it's like i went to lucky creek casino and hit 777 on one of those slot machines

and out comes all this "money". coins and stuff, you know what i mean

anyway, i'm gonna think about this for another 7 months

which would put me somewhere in the middle of next year, i believe
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11-06-2019, 10:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-06-2019, 10:44 PM by 5GIRLS.)
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RE: Dal: why not post this?
Well, I can certainly relate to Dal and Mr. F getting upset over this. But I can have respect for anyones solve, no matter how wrong, as I have had my share. I would think Dal would post it tho, so we can shred it. lol
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