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In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
06-28-2020, 10:41 AM,
#1
In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
I'm signing off.
Without saying too much I was told by a respected friend and federal authority to stop posting after I had posted something I shouldn't have (even if I said it tongue-in-cheek).

Anyhow, I'm also going to stop "digging" for more information.
I got nothing concrete on the solve or the location of the treasure.
But the finder I did manage to scrap some information about.

The Finder is a registered sex offender.

Don't have a name, wasn't given a name. I can't give proof or tell who I heard this from without that person immediately being fired (and probably sued). But I trust the source. I trust the information. It even make sense given how secret the Finder has been. Think about it. If people have his name and look him up and find out he's a sex offender that's all people will talk about. All of the headlines will read, "Sex offender finds hidden treasure." You could look this person up, see their address, and find out what they did. Now I know you can be an offender for mundane things like urinating in public, but I think the longer this person is in hiding, the least likely they have much contact with family or friends, meaning the greater (or worse) their accusation was (sex with minor? child porn?). This is all just speculation, but logically fits pieces into the puzzle.
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06-28-2020, 10:58 AM,
#2
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
(06-28-2020, 10:41 AM)filmguy Wrote: I'm signing off.
Without saying too much I was told by a respected friend and federal authority to stop posting after I had posted something I shouldn't have (even if I said it tongue-in-cheek).

Anyhow, I'm also going to stop "digging" for more information.
I got nothing concrete on the solve or the location of the treasure.
But the finder I did manage to scrap some information about.

The Finder is a registered sex offender.

Don't have a name, wasn't given a name. I can't give proof or tell who I heard this from without that person immediately being fired (and probably sued). But I trust the source. I trust the information. It even make sense given how secret the Finder has been. Think about it. If people have his name and look him up and find out he's a sex offender that's all people will talk about. All of the headlines will read, "Sex offender finds hidden treasure." You could look this person up, see their address, and find out what they did. Now I know you can be an offender for mundane things like urinating in public, but I think the longer this person is in hiding, the least likely they have much contact with family or friends, meaning the greater (or worse) their accusation was (sex with minor? child porn?). This is all just speculation, but logically fits pieces into the puzzle.

Hope everythings ok by you. Wishing you well.
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06-28-2020, 11:03 AM,
#3
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
hmmm so everyone who comes on here describing the "finder" is subliminally or intentionally describing themselves. Is there anything else you wish to disclose about yourself before you depart(read BT punt)?

I find none of your self-revelation shocking.
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06-28-2020, 03:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-28-2020, 03:24 PM by jurassic.)
#4
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
[quote="filmguy" pid='238636' dateline='1593358874']
I'm signing off.
Without saying too much I was told by a respected friend and federal authority to stop posting after I had posted something I shouldn't have (even if I said it tongue-in-cheek).

Anyhow, I'm also going to stop "digging" for more information.
I got nothing concrete on the solve or the location of the treasure.
But the finder I did manage to scrap some information about.

The Finder is a registered sex offender.

Don't have a name, wasn't given a name. I can't give proof or tell who I heard this from without that person immediately being fired (and probably sued). But I trust the source. I trust the information. It even make sense given how secret the Finder has been. Think about it. If people have his name and look him up and find out he's a sex offender that's all people will talk about. All of the headlines will read, "Sex offender finds hidden treasure." You could look this person up, see their address, and find out what they did. Now I know you can be an offender for mundane things like urinating in public, but I think the longer this person is in hiding, the least likely they have much contact with family or friends, meaning the greater (or worse) their accusation was (sex with minor? child porn?). This is all just speculation, but logically fits pieces into the puzzle.
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[quote="filmguy" pid='238636' dateline='1593358874']


I think it's just silly that sex related stuff just keeps appearing here in CC. Maybe folks should just stop with that, and start looking at the state actors both domestic and foreign who played a role setting up our Congress-people, Senators, Actors, musicians, Journalists, Editors, CEO/CFO/CIO's, media conglomerates in sex scandals. Don't you understand? That's what Epstein was about. Sure he had a problem that is clear. But it was a means to an end.


I hate when something gets posted, and sometimes there's a bunch of hate mail that follows after. And my post is not hate mail. Nor is it to be a jerk.

But it is to share a dissenting point of view.

The sex crimes thing? We would need to know who the person is and do our homework to believe that.

I can say the finder is a scumbag, murderer, and thief. But who are we speaking about? And what did they do?

On the other hand, if you have information, I can't think of 1 law broken to expose the person's identity. By no means am I an authority on all fronts, but I deal with HIPAA data and customer data (known as PII - Personally Identifiable Information). And what that means is that I have a data center with customer information, PII - social security #, Name, Address, account number, etc I am obligated by law to secure and manage the data integrity. California law has passed in regards to PII, and we are working through right now to make sure we are compliant.

However...

If you came across data which isn't your own customer data and wasn't ripped off from a data center...like equifax... and you had released the information as hearsay...and it just so happened you made the claim the person was a registered sex offender...I can't see what law you would be breaking.

You can publish a person's identity, but if you post their information with false information...like saying they were a sex offender when they weren't... (defamatory/slander) you would be exposing yourself to civil liabilities.

However...

If you were in fact, sharing information, truthful information, and information which isn't defamatory...and the person was a sex offender, there's no recourse for that person, and there's nothing they can do.

Furthermore...

If a civil liability was going to be levied, they would want to anticipate the potential defendant's assets before pursuing. Just because they may potentially win a case, doesn't mean they will want to pursue the case. And if you just an average Joe without significant assets more than likely, they will choose not to pursue because there are no gains.

At best, they could file for an injunction and could ask a website like CC from posting. But CC would not be liable (at least before Barr spoke about this a few weeks ago) as long as they took the post down. But Private messages can't be stopped.

So... what's your purpose for bringing this up?
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06-28-2020, 04:23 PM,
#5
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
Plots within plots, schemes within schemes....that's what the Fenn online is all about. This is definitely the strangest posting I have read today, but the day is yet young.

Although there is nothing funny about sex offenders, there would be a certain poetic justice to have Fenn's 'legacy' located by someone on the watch list.
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I want this to be a fair fight. I'll shoot him in the back myself. That's the Code of the West!

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06-28-2020, 05:04 PM,
#6
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
(06-28-2020, 03:10 PM)jurassic Wrote: [quote="filmguy" pid='238636' dateline='1593358874']
I'm signing off.
Without saying too much I was told by a respected friend and federal authority to stop posting after I had posted something I shouldn't have (even if I said it tongue-in-cheek).

Anyhow, I'm also going to stop "digging" for more information.
I got nothing concrete on the solve or the location of the treasure.
But the finder I did manage to scrap some information about.

The Finder is a registered sex offender.

Don't have a name, wasn't given a name. I can't give proof or tell who I heard this from without that person immediately being fired (and probably sued). But I trust the source. I trust the information. It even make sense given how secret the Finder has been. Think about it. If people have his name and look him up and find out he's a sex offender that's all people will talk about. All of the headlines will read, "Sex offender finds hidden treasure." You could look this person up, see their address, and find out what they did. Now I know you can be an offender for mundane things like urinating in public, but I think the longer this person is in hiding, the least likely they have much contact with family or friends, meaning the greater (or worse) their accusation was (sex with minor? child porn?). This is all just speculation, but logically fits pieces into the puzzle.


(06-28-2020, 10:41 AM)filmguy Wrote: I think it's just silly that sex related stuff just keeps appearing here in CC. Maybe folks should just stop with that, and start looking at the state actors both domestic and foreign who played a role setting up our Congress-people, Senators, Actors, musicians, Journalists, Editors, CEO/CFO/CIO's, media conglomerates in sex scandals. Don't you understand? That's what Epstein was about. Sure he had a problem that is clear. But it was a means to an end.


I hate when something gets posted, and sometimes there's a bunch of hate mail that follows after. And my post is not hate mail. Nor is it to be a jerk.

But it is to share a dissenting point of view.

The sex crimes thing? We would need to know who the person is and do our homework to believe that.

I can say the finder is a scumbag, murderer, and thief. But who are we speaking about? And what did they do?

On the other hand, if you have information, I can't think of 1 law broken to expose the person's identity. By no means am I an authority on all fronts, but I deal with HIPAA data and customer data (known as PII - Personally Identifiable Information). And what that means is that I have a data center with customer information, PII - social security #, Name, Address, account number, etc I am obligated by law to secure and manage the data integrity. California law has passed in regards to PII, and we are working through right now to make sure we are compliant.

However...

If you came across data which isn't your own customer data and wasn't ripped off from a data center...like equifax... and you had released the information as hearsay...and it just so happened you made the claim the person was a registered sex offender...I can't see what law you would be breaking.

You can publish a person's identity, but if you post their information with false information...like saying they were a sex offender when they weren't... (defamatory/slander) you would be exposing yourself to civil liabilities.

However...

If you were in fact, sharing information, truthful information, and information which isn't defamatory...and the person was a sex offender, there's no recourse for that person, and there's nothing they can do.

Furthermore...

If a civil liability was going to be levied, they would want to anticipate the potential defendant's assets before pursuing. Just because they may potentially win a case, doesn't mean they will want to pursue the case. And if you just an average Joe without significant assets more than likely, they will choose not to pursue because there are no gains.

At best, they could file for an injunction and could ask a website like CC from posting. But CC would not be liable (at least before Barr spoke about this a few weeks ago) as long as they took the post down. But Private messages can't be stopped.

So... what's your purpose for bringing this up?

Clickbait, maybe?
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06-28-2020, 06:00 PM,
#7
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
(06-28-2020, 10:41 AM)filmguy Wrote: I'm signing off.
Without saying too much I was told by a respected friend and federal authority to stop posting after I had posted something I shouldn't have (even if I said it tongue-in-cheek).

Anyhow, I'm also going to stop "digging" for more information.
I got nothing concrete on the solve or the location of the treasure.
But the finder I did manage to scrap some information about.

The Finder is a registered sex offender.

Don't have a name, wasn't given a name. I can't give proof or tell who I heard this from without that person immediately being fired (and probably sued). But I trust the source. I trust the information. It even make sense given how secret the Finder has been. Think about it. If people have his name and look him up and find out he's a sex offender that's all people will talk about. All of the headlines will read, "Sex offender finds hidden treasure." You could look this person up, see their address, and find out what they did. Now I know you can be an offender for mundane things like urinating in public, but I think the longer this person is in hiding, the least likely they have much contact with family or friends, meaning the greater (or worse) their accusation was (sex with minor? child porn?). This is all just speculation, but logically fits pieces into the puzzle.
And if the Fenn finder is not a sex offender would you be liable for the gross negligence of initiating morbid hearsay against someone you dont know? Sheesh !!
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06-28-2020, 07:01 PM,
#8
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
Just like filmguy to exit the chase with a hatchet job/smear campaign based on hearsay. Another character assassination by innuendo.

Sadly, some inquiring minds may want to know, so he will go out thinking he has done everyone a real service.

But I don't, so let's all go and piss on his leg publicly and tell him it's raining. He might believe it. Smile
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06-28-2020, 09:05 PM,
#9
RE: In Conclusion......by djjmciv/filmguy
(06-28-2020, 07:01 PM)Beavertooth Wrote: Just like filmguy to exit the chase with a hatchet job/smear campaign based on hearsay. Another character assassination by innuendo.

Sadly, some inquiring minds may want to know, so he will go out thinking he has done everyone a real service.

But I don't, so let's all go and piss on his leg publicly and tell him it's raining. He might believe it. Smile

LOL! I'm gonna miss ya, BT!
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