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A thought about Dal
01-04-2021, 11:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-04-2021, 11:25 PM by crazyfamily.)
#11
A thought about Dal
Well, I agree with that, or with what you posted before the edit.

I don’t agree that someone or anyone will solve the poem and find the spot and post the solution. It’s been months already and no one has a clue to the spot even though we know that the treasure was purportedly found in Wyoming. Forrest wouldn’t narrow down the field to one or two states feeling that it would be too easy, yet now we know and it’s still nearly impossible. Smells like poop.
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01-04-2021, 11:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-04-2021, 11:30 PM by PL289.)
#12
RE: A thought about Dal
I have a bit of a different take than the published finder. I believe FF wanted the site found and known by the community. I have always thought there was more at “the spot” than just the treasure FF left in a repop bronze chest he found a picture of on google and had remade. If i find the spot, and I’m confident it’s correct and there is nothing else valuable other than the view, I’ll happily publish my spot location, the reasoning, and the poem solution i used to get there. I think that knowledge is owed to the community who embarked on the Chase, and if a long hauler can help bring closure to some then i think that’s kinda like providing a cure for a cancer that people are having trouble getting rid of.

In closing, I think the published finder (because i think he was lucky instead of a genius) doesn’t fully realize the significance of the spot. I could be wrong of course, but I think there are multiple layers worth investigating with respect to the spots meaning, and the finder may not understand all those levels....although he wants us to think that he does because that belief will eventually sell his book. MAYBE. IMHO. WHO KNOWS?

I live in Colorado now, mainly because of the Chase. At some point once COVID is behind us, I’ve love for there to be a Colorado get together (dinner? Drinks? Potluck?) and those in attendance just go over and review any Wyoming solves they had over the years. I’ll volunteer to go over mine first and break the ice. It really doesn’t matter at this point, it’s all fun and games.
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01-04-2021, 11:32 PM,
#13
RE: A thought about Dal
(01-04-2021, 10:39 PM)PL289 Wrote: So, I’m a nobody, and I wish the person who had found the chest would have been a long haul searcher who was deserving an not someone who would just sell it to the highest bidder. I get why the finder is making that choice, but I don’t have to agree with it or be happy with the outcome.

Here is my take on the above comments about Dal, whom I’ve disagreed with on occasion, but still appreciate what he did I for the Chase, to the extent I am aware of his altruistic running of his website for the community....

Mindy, if i were Dal and had an unlimited supply of money, I’d sue you silly for the bull spit you are are spewing and putting out into the ether. Ban me for saying that but you should delete your unfounded insinuations about people in general.

You are all seemingly supporting and promoting some conspiracy to defraud the world that includes a failed med student, and dead air force pilot, his deceased wife, deceased friends, his remaining family, grandkids, and a guy named Dal living on an island in Washington State who has better things to do than listen to your bull. The person who found this chest was always going to be the luckiest person in the world who happened upon the right first guess and then stuck with it because he or she believed in the clues. That’s it, nothing else. I never liked the process, but I always knew that was what i signed up for. I never met FF, or dal, or most of you crazy focks, but i had fun while it lasted. Now keep hiking, or just go pound sand.

289... you sound as if you're defending friends more than a seasoned searcher who allows his own opinions. And frankly, I'm not sure why you and a few are so deeply insistent on the narrative, but we'll all wait that out. This'll all come out, pounding sand or not. It'll be ashes by the time I and a few of us "crazy focks" digest and shit out the entire contents of this. Pandemic year was real bad choice for year to steal and conceal the ending.
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01-04-2021, 11:44 PM,
#14
RE: A thought about Dal
(01-04-2021, 11:32 PM)LeadSolver Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 10:39 PM)PL289 Wrote: So, I’m a nobody, and I wish the person who had found the chest would have been a long haul searcher who was deserving an not someone who would just sell it to the highest bidder. I get why the finder is making that choice, but I don’t have to agree with it or be happy with the outcome.

Here is my take on the above comments about Dal, whom I’ve disagreed with on occasion, but still appreciate what he did I for the Chase, to the extent I am aware of his altruistic running of his website for the community....

Mindy, if i were Dal and had an unlimited supply of money, I’d sue you silly for the bull spit you are are spewing and putting out into the ether. Ban me for saying that but you should delete your unfounded insinuations about people in general.

You are all seemingly supporting and promoting some conspiracy to defraud the world that includes a failed med student, and dead air force pilot, his deceased wife, deceased friends, his remaining family, grandkids, and a guy named Dal living on an island in Washington State who has better things to do than listen to your bull. The person who found this chest was always going to be the luckiest person in the world who happened upon the right first guess and then stuck with it because he or she believed in the clues. That’s it, nothing else. I never liked the process, but I always knew that was what i signed up for. I never met FF, or dal, or most of you crazy focks, but i had fun while it lasted. Now keep hiking, or just go pound sand.

289... you sound as if you're defending friends more than a seasoned searcher who allows his own opinions. And frankly, I'm not sure why you and a few are so deeply insistent on the narrative, but we'll all wait that out. This'll all come out, pounding sand or not. It'll be ashes by the time I and a few of us "crazy focks" digest and shit out the entire contents of this. Pandemic year was real bad choice for year to steal and conceal the ending.

Please don’t take offense, none is intended. Some of us must focus on mental self preservation at this point. It’s hard for me to be ok with the time and money I’ve invested in the Chase, only to lose to a failed med student who couldn’t hack the memory game and has bills to pay. I’m sure he’s a smart guy but goddamn that’s hard to get over. I’m sure he’s a good fellow, but it’s a hard pill to swallow nonetheless....and he knew it would be that way the minute he decided to go visit Fenn after recovering the Chest. Millennials have been driving GenXer’s up the wall for years and this instance is no different. Cheers! To the victor goes the spoils. If i ever meet the chap I’ll pour him a drink and toast his health like a gentleman should.
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01-04-2021, 11:58 PM,
#15
RE: A thought about Dal
(01-04-2021, 11:44 PM)PL289 Wrote: Please don’t take offense, none is intended. Some of us must focus on mental self preservation at this point. It’s hard for me to be ok with the time and money I’ve invested in the Chase, only to lose to a failed med student who couldn’t hack the memory game and has bills to pay. I’m sure he’s a smart guy but goddamn that’s hard to get over. I’m sure he’s a good fellow, but it’s a hard pill to swallow nonetheless....and he knew it would be that way the minute he decided to go visit Fenn after recovering the Chest. Millennials have been driving GenXer’s up the wall for years and this instance is no different. Cheers! To the victor goes the spoils. If i ever meet the chap I’ll pour him a drink and toast his health like a gentleman should.

Ugh! Spoken like a true friend of Jack! Because NO ONE around here is that beta to Jack. We have no reason to be. And this ongoing Millennial/Genex feud makes me know who people are down to a fine degree, and know they're knowing who I am. Sure dude, I'd party with y'all & you could learn from a streetfighting antifascist rock star.
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01-05-2021, 04:13 PM,
#16
A thought about Dal
(01-04-2021, 10:39 PM)PL289 Wrote: So, I’m a nobody, and I wish the person who had found the chest would have been a long haul searcher who was deserving an not someone who would just sell it to the highest bidder. I get why the finder is making that choice, but I don’t have to agree with it or be happy with the outcome.

Here is my take on the above comments about Dal, whom I’ve disagreed with on occasion, but still appreciate what he did I for the Chase, to the extent I am aware of his altruistic running of his website for the community....

Mindy, if i were Dal and had an unlimited supply of money, I’d sue you silly for the bull spit you are are spewing and putting out into the ether. Ban me for saying that but you should delete your unfounded insinuations about people in general.

You are all seemingly supporting and promoting some conspiracy to defraud the world that includes a failed med student, a dead air force pilot, his deceased wife, deceased friends, living friends, his remaining family, grandkids, and a guy named Dal living on an island in Washington State who has better things to do than listen to your bull spit. The person who found this chest was always going to be the luckiest person in the world who happened upon the right first guess and then stuck with it because he or she believed in the clues they thought they found. That’s it, nothing else. I never liked the process, but I always knew that was what i signed up for. I never met FF, or dal, or most of you crazy focks, but i had fun while it lasted. Now keep hiking, or just go pound sand.


I would welcome a lawsuit from ANYONE I’ve spoken the truth about, because, you know, the truth is the ultimate defense.

The only thing I proposed in my op was that Dal knew who the “finder” really was when the first “fraud” finder’s article was published. Does someone have a link to that article? The one with the pic of the guy in a cowboy hat looking down so his face is obscured? To me, that article seemed more plausible as being from a “regular guy” finder than the Medium article Jack supposedly wrote.

So why didn’t Dal publish that first article? He’d posted links to just about every other article written on the subject, but ignored that one.

If Dal published the Medium article, it’s certain that he knew the first finder was a fraud and that Jack was the “true” finder. Which meant at the time the first article was published shortly after the announcement that the chest was found, Dal already knew who the real “finder” was.

My suspicions is that Dal was the one who took the pics in the lawyers office with Jack. And Dal is the one who manipulated the photos in order to stir up controversy and drama.

I’m not saying I doubt the finder IS Jack. He very well could be—I have no way of knowing, and I don’t care. My suspicion is that FF made him sign a legal document that prevented Jack from speaking about the clues or the location, and I’ve already stated a few times why I believe that.

But I will say this— there are things that don’t add up. Surely, since the blaze is now destroyed, or nearly so, Jack could reveal what it was, without giving away the location. Surely, Jack could reveal whether it was inside YNP or outside, without giving away too much.

And many others have pointed out many other inconsistencies, like Jack napping in the shade of the pines in nearly freezing weather, and why on earth Jack doesn’t have the TC in a vault or safety deposit box closer to home. And I won’t go into the inconsistencies between what jack has said and what was written in the Medium article.

I do know Dan Barberisi—my story is in his upcoming work, and we have spoken at great length many many times. He told me in a recent email that he couldn’t wait for the rest of Jack’s “story” to come out in the pages of his book.


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01-05-2021, 04:24 PM,
#17
RE: A thought about Dal
Dal seems to be one who'd know every detail of Fenn's Chase game... and one who originated within it. I mean, he was the designated TV spokesman. Much has originated between he and Jack since Forrest died.
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01-05-2021, 05:36 PM,
#18
RE: A thought about Dal
(01-05-2021, 04:13 PM)Mindy Wrote: I do know Dan Barberisi—my story is in his upcoming work, and we have spoken at great length many many times. He told me in a recent email that he couldn’t wait for the rest of Jack’s “story” to come out in the pages of his book.

Juicy.

And yeah, I think Dal took the pictures as well -- on that special "trip".
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01-05-2021, 09:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-05-2021, 09:23 PM by trueyeti.)
#19
RE: A thought about Dal
(01-04-2021, 11:25 PM)PL289 Wrote: I have a bit of a different take than the published finder. I believe FF wanted the site found and known by the community. I have always thought there was more at “the spot” than just the treasure FF left in a repop bronze chest he found a picture of on google and had remade. If i find the spot, and I’m confident it’s correct and there is nothing else valuable other than the view, I’ll happily publish my spot location, the reasoning, and the poem solution i used to get there. I think that knowledge is owed to the community who embarked on the Chase, and if a long hauler can help bring closure to some then i think that’s kinda like providing a cure for a cancer that people are having trouble getting rid of.

In closing, I think the published finder (because i think he was lucky instead of a genius) doesn’t fully realize the significance of the spot. I could be wrong of course, but I think there are multiple layers worth investigating with respect to the spots meaning, and the finder may not understand all those levels....although he wants us to think that he does because that belief will eventually sell his book. MAYBE. IMHO. WHO KNOWS?

I live in Colorado now, mainly because of the Chase. At some point once COVID is behind us, I’ve love for there to be a Colorado get together (dinner? Drinks? Potluck?) and those in attendance just go over and review any Wyoming solves they had over the years. I’ll volunteer to go over mine first and break the ice. It really doesn’t matter at this point, it’s all fun and games.


Jack is like, “Z,” the protagonist in the movie, “Ready Player One.” The movie is about “Z’s” quest for the “Golden Egg,” and it, can be equated to the Grail, in the myth of “The Search for the Holy Grail”.

The search for Forrest Fenn’s treasure chest is like the mythical search for the Grail. In the movie, “Z,” is short for “Percival,” and in one of the myth stories of the “Search for the Holy Grail,” the seeker and the finder, is named, “Percival”.

The meaning of the myth, “The Search for the Holy Grail,” has been debated by scholars for centuries.

The search for Forrest Fenn’s treasure chest can easily be equated to the search for the Grail. It only takes a bit of imagination to use a metaphorical “looking glass,” to “see,” the comparison.

Scholars, debate to derive meaning, and the myth-story of the search for the Grail is like a metaphor, that can be used describe the quest for meaning. A person may spend an entire lifetime looking for meaning for themselves. For Forrest’s Poem, “meaning,” will answer the questions we have.

For boomer’s, gen X’ers, and Millennials alike, the quest for the Grail, is timeless. Seekers seek meaning and answers, and their quest, in my opinion, relates to the myth of the Search for the Holy Grail.

Knowledge of the search, I believe, will flush-out the meaning we seek PL289. I like everything you say, and the way that you think, and seek to take nothing away from you. I only wish to add my comment to yours. You are a brave seeker in Colorado.

I trust that our knowledge, and our communities’ knowledge, will discover, “the answers that Forrest already knows”. (Line in poem). Once known, the answers will be known, to all of us.

Have a drink on me loco, (I live in New Mexico).

(01-05-2021, 04:13 PM)Mindy Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 10:39 PM)PL289 Wrote: So, I’m a nobody, and I wish the person who had found the chest would have been a long haul searcher who was deserving an not someone who would just sell it to the highest bidder. I get why the finder is making that choice, but I don’t have to agree with it or be happy with the outcome.

Here is my take on the above comments about Dal, whom I’ve disagreed with on occasion, but still appreciate what he did I for the Chase, to the extent I am aware of his altruistic running of his website for the community....

Mindy, if i were Dal and had an unlimited supply of money, I’d sue you silly for the bull spit you are are spewing and putting out into the ether. Ban me for saying that but you should delete your unfounded insinuations about people in general.

You are all seemingly supporting and promoting some conspiracy to defraud the world that includes a failed med student, a dead air force pilot, his deceased wife, deceased friends, living friends, his remaining family, grandkids, and a guy named Dal living on an island in Washington State who has better things to do than listen to your bull spit. The person who found this chest was always going to be the luckiest person in the world who happened upon the right first guess and then stuck with it because he or she believed in the clues they thought they found. That’s it, nothing else. I never liked the process, but I always knew that was what i signed up for. I never met FF, or dal, or most of you crazy focks, but i had fun while it lasted. Now keep hiking, or just go pound sand.


I would welcome a lawsuit from ANYONE I’ve spoken the truth about, because, you know, the truth is the ultimate defense.

The only thing I proposed in my op was that Dal knew who the “finder” really was when the first “fraud” finder’s article was published. Does someone have a link to that article? The one with the pic of the guy in a cowboy hat looking down so his face is obscured? To me, that article seemed more plausible as being from a “regular guy” finder than the Medium article Jack supposedly wrote.

So why didn’t Dal publish that first article? He’d posted links to just about every other article written on the subject, but ignored that one.

If Dal published the Medium article, it’s certain that he knew the first finder was a fraud and that Jack was the “true” finder. Which meant at the time the first article was published shortly after the announcement that the chest was found, Dal already knew who the real “finder” was.

My suspicions is that Dal was the one who took the pics in the lawyers office with Jack. And Dal is the one who manipulated the photos in order to stir up controversy and drama.

I’m not saying I doubt the finder IS Jack. He very well could be—I have no way of knowing, and I don’t care. My suspicion is that FF made him sign a legal document that prevented Jack from speaking about the clues or the location, and I’ve already stated a few times why I believe that.

But I will say this— there are things that don’t add up. Surely, since the blaze is now destroyed, or nearly so, Jack could reveal what it was, without giving away the location. Surely, Jack could reveal whether it was inside YNP or outside, without giving away too much.

And many others have pointed out many other inconsistencies, like Jack napping in the shade of the pines in nearly freezing weather, and why on earth Jack doesn’t have the TC in a vault or safety deposit box closer to home. And I won’t go into the inconsistencies between what jack has said and what was written in the Medium article.

I do know Dan Barberisi—my story is in his upcoming work, and we have spoken at great length many many times. He told me in a recent email that he couldn’t wait for the rest of Jack’s “story” to come out in the pages of his book.


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I think your logic is sound and it leads to the creation of new questions. Your post opens doors, question is, which one(s) do we go through?
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01-05-2021, 10:47 PM,
#20
A thought about Dal
(01-05-2021, 09:04 PM)trueyeti Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 11:25 PM)PL289 Wrote: I have a bit of a different take than the published finder. I believe FF wanted the site found and known by the community. I have always thought there was more at “the spot” than just the treasure FF left in a repop bronze chest he found a picture of on google and had remade. If i find the spot, and I’m confident it’s correct and there is nothing else valuable other than the view, I’ll happily publish my spot location, the reasoning, and the poem solution i used to get there. I think that knowledge is owed to the community who embarked on the Chase, and if a long hauler can help bring closure to some then i think that’s kinda like providing a cure for a cancer that people are having trouble getting rid of.

In closing, I think the published finder (because i think he was lucky instead of a genius) doesn’t fully realize the significance of the spot. I could be wrong of course, but I think there are multiple layers worth investigating with respect to the spots meaning, and the finder may not understand all those levels....although he wants us to think that he does because that belief will eventually sell his book. MAYBE. IMHO. WHO KNOWS?

I live in Colorado now, mainly because of the Chase. At some point once COVID is behind us, I’ve love for there to be a Colorado get together (dinner? Drinks? Potluck?) and those in attendance just go over and review any Wyoming solves they had over the years. I’ll volunteer to go over mine first and break the ice. It really doesn’t matter at this point, it’s all fun and games.


Jack is like, “Z,” the protagonist in the movie, “Ready Player One.” The movie is about “Z’s” quest for the “Golden Egg,” and it, can be equated to the Grail, in the myth of “The Search for the Holy Grail”.

The search for Forrest Fenn’s treasure chest is like the mythical search for the Grail. In the movie, “Z,” is short for “Percival,” and in one of the myth stories of the “Search for the Holy Grail,” the seeker and the finder, is named, “Percival”.

The meaning of the myth, “The Search for the Holy Grail,” has been debated by scholars for centuries.

The search for Forrest Fenn’s treasure chest can easily be equated to the search for the Grail. It only takes a bit of imagination to use a metaphorical “looking glass,” to “see,” the comparison.

Scholars, debate to derive meaning, and the myth-story of the search for the Grail is like a metaphor, that can be used describe the quest for meaning. A person may spend an entire lifetime looking for meaning for themselves. For Forrest’s Poem, “meaning,” will answer the questions we have.

For boomer’s, gen X’ers, and Millennials alike, the quest for the Grail, is timeless. Seekers seek meaning and answers, and their quest, in my opinion, relates to the myth of the Search for the Holy Grail.

Knowledge of the search, I believe, will flush-out the meaning we seek PL289. I like everything you say, and the way that you think, and seek to take nothing away from you. I only wish to add my comment to yours. You are a brave seeker in Colorado.

I trust that our knowledge, and our communities’ knowledge, will discover, “the answers that Forrest already knows”. (Line in poem). Once known, the answers will be known, to all of us.

Have a drink on me loco, (I live in New Mexico).

(01-05-2021, 04:13 PM)Mindy Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 10:39 PM)PL289 Wrote: So, I’m a nobody, and I wish the person who had found the chest would have been a long haul searcher who was deserving an not someone who would just sell it to the highest bidder. I get why the finder is making that choice, but I don’t have to agree with it or be happy with the outcome.

Here is my take on the above comments about Dal, whom I’ve disagreed with on occasion, but still appreciate what he did I for the Chase, to the extent I am aware of his altruistic running of his website for the community....

Mindy, if i were Dal and had an unlimited supply of money, I’d sue you silly for the bull spit you are are spewing and putting out into the ether. Ban me for saying that but you should delete your unfounded insinuations about people in general.

You are all seemingly supporting and promoting some conspiracy to defraud the world that includes a failed med student, a dead air force pilot, his deceased wife, deceased friends, living friends, his remaining family, grandkids, and a guy named Dal living on an island in Washington State who has better things to do than listen to your bull spit. The person who found this chest was always going to be the luckiest person in the world who happened upon the right first guess and then stuck with it because he or she believed in the clues they thought they found. That’s it, nothing else. I never liked the process, but I always knew that was what i signed up for. I never met FF, or dal, or most of you crazy focks, but i had fun while it lasted. Now keep hiking, or just go pound sand.


I would welcome a lawsuit from ANYONE I’ve spoken the truth about, because, you know, the truth is the ultimate defense.

The only thing I proposed in my op was that Dal knew who the “finder” really was when the first “fraud” finder’s article was published. Does someone have a link to that article? The one with the pic of the guy in a cowboy hat looking down so his face is obscured? To me, that article seemed more plausible as being from a “regular guy” finder than the Medium article Jack supposedly wrote.

So why didn’t Dal publish that first article? He’d posted links to just about every other article written on the subject, but ignored that one.

If Dal published the Medium article, it’s certain that he knew the first finder was a fraud and that Jack was the “true” finder. Which meant at the time the first article was published shortly after the announcement that the chest was found, Dal already knew who the real “finder” was.

My suspicions is that Dal was the one who took the pics in the lawyers office with Jack. And Dal is the one who manipulated the photos in order to stir up controversy and drama.

I’m not saying I doubt the finder IS Jack. He very well could be—I have no way of knowing, and I don’t care. My suspicion is that FF made him sign a legal document that prevented Jack from speaking about the clues or the location, and I’ve already stated a few times why I believe that.

But I will say this— there are things that don’t add up. Surely, since the blaze is now destroyed, or nearly so, Jack could reveal what it was, without giving away the location. Surely, Jack could reveal whether it was inside YNP or outside, without giving away too much.

And many others have pointed out many other inconsistencies, like Jack napping in the shade of the pines in nearly freezing weather, and why on earth Jack doesn’t have the TC in a vault or safety deposit box closer to home. And I won’t go into the inconsistencies between what jack has said and what was written in the Medium article.

I do know Dan Barberisi—my story is in his upcoming work, and we have spoken at great length many many times. He told me in a recent email that he couldn’t wait for the rest of Jack’s “story” to come out in the pages of his book.


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I think your logic is sound and it leads to the creation of new questions. Your post opens doors, question is, which one(s) do we go through?


None of them. Why worry about something you have no control over and can’t change? Smile


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