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NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
04-06-2021, 04:24 PM,
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RE: NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
(04-06-2021, 03:52 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: It hasn’t passed anything and has no support. Lots of bad legislation is proposed all the time by both republicans and democrats. Most of it never gets to a vote. That’s how not real it is. That’s why it’s more of “the sky is falling” from republicans.

That’s the problem with vitriol like “democrats are the enemy of the people.”

Democrats, on the whole, are good people. The small group of people who knowingly manipulate the thoughts of the Democrats are the enemy of the people.

The German people, on the whole, were a good people. They did not wake up one day and say, "Hey, I think it would be fun to throw innocent people into concentration camps and gas them to death." The leaders of the German people (The National Socialists) led them psychologically into a state that enabled them to justify their actions. It's not the bad apples that we should spend our time concentrating on. It's the bad barrel that the apples are contained within.

When New York state (the barrel) passes legislation justifying the use of concentration camps, it creates the potential to turn good apples (the people living within New York state) into bad apples. Or it at least creates the environment to turn good people into bad people.
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04-06-2021, 04:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-06-2021, 05:44 PM by crazyfamily.)
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NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
Well, your entire argument is premised on bad information. So, I have to consider that if you don’t correct yourself, you are the bad apple barrel.

That bill has never had support in the 6 or so years it has been around.

Here, read this article:

https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/yea...-in-albany
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04-07-2021, 10:44 AM,
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NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
(04-06-2021, 04:10 PM)ravenhome777 Wrote:
(04-05-2021, 04:16 PM)old drum Wrote: So throwing people in camps is OK as long as it's not racially motivated?

Yep. You hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what she is saying, but I do not blame her at all. It's not her fault.

We are witnessing the NAZI-ication of the Democratic party. The slow descent into the justification of evil thought.

Here's an interesting Ted talk:
Philip Zimbardo: The psychology of evil
https://tedsummaries.com/2014/11/24/phil...y-of-evil/


No, that’s NOT what I was saying. Read my reply to old drum. What I was saying is that comparing it with the worlds most heinous, sick, demented and twisted acts of mankind is wrong.


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04-07-2021, 08:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-07-2021, 09:19 PM by ravenhome777.)
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RE: NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
(04-07-2021, 10:44 AM)Mindy Wrote:
(04-06-2021, 04:10 PM)ravenhome777 Wrote:
(04-05-2021, 04:16 PM)old drum Wrote: So throwing people in camps is OK as long as it's not racially motivated?

Yep. You hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what she is saying, but I do not blame her at all. It's not her fault.

We are witnessing the NAZI-ication of the Democratic party. The slow descent into the justification of evil thought.

Here's an interesting Ted talk:
Philip Zimbardo: The psychology of evil
https://tedsummaries.com/2014/11/24/phil...y-of-evil/


No, that’s NOT what I was saying. Read my reply to old drum. What I was saying is that comparing it with the worlds most heinous, sick, demented and twisted acts of mankind is wrong.


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Why is that wrong? That's exactly who these people are. They are trying to pass a bill to initiate concentration camps. These people are just as evil as NAZIs. They just haven't reached their full potential yet, but given the opportunity, they will. People probably didn't think Hitler was all that evil in 1930. Given time, power, money and resources, he reached his full potential. These people in New York want the same thing that Hitler wanted. Give them time, power, money and resources, they will end up with the same result.

Do yourself a favor and watch that Ted talk on the psychology of evil.

(04-06-2021, 04:34 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: Well, your entire argument is premised on bad information. So, I have to consider that if you don’t correct yourself, you are the bad apple barrel.

That bill has never had support in the 6 or so years it has been around.

Here, read this article:

https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/yea...-in-albany

I think your argument is based on a bad premise actually. You're saying that just because a bill for concentration camps has been around for a long time and doesn't have a lot of support, that makes it OK?

That, in fact, is a horrible premise. Unspeakable, really.

How can you ever justify a bill that puts people into concentration camps? Seriously. How did you mentally get to that place where you can justify this?

Are you thinking, "Well, they're only putting people who didn't take the vaccine in concentration camps. I took the vaccine, so I won't be affected." Is that your reasoning?

Wow, I just watched that video. That is absolutely ludicrous. How can they justify a bill that detains people without due process, with no way of getting someone out, just because the government deemed them a threat to other people. That is the exact definition of a concentration camp, and I'm sure that's exactly the way the NAZIs justified it at first as well. To say, "Ahh well, this bill has been around since 2015, and it's not a big deal." Is truly sickening. How can you justify that? That's the way it's always played. The slippery slope. We'll just do this one little thing. It's not a big deal. Once they get their foot in the door, then they do another, and another and another, until they've taken over the entire system. That's the Marxist playbook. We've seen this played out over and over, decade after decade. Look at where we are today.

It makes me think that a small part of you thinks that it's actually a good idea to put people into detention facilities to protect everyone else. Do you think it's OK to put people in detention facilities to protect the good of the whole?

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect that Mindy and CrazyFamily probably joined the Democratic party for the same reason that I joined it. In high school, I was told that the Democratic party was for supporting poor people and under privileged people and that the Republican party was for supporting rich people to make them even richer than they already are.

Given that line, of course I'm going to join the Democratic party. I want to help poor people. Who doesn't want to help poor people. Why would I join the Republican party? I'm not going to help rich people. They're already rich! Screw them.

So I was a Democrat for the first 20 years of my life. I loved NPR. I loved all my left leaning classes at college. I fit right in. I agreed with everything they said. I was part of culture. I trashed on all republican ideas and looked down upon people who said they were from Oklahoma or Texas. I didn't know why I looked down on them, but everybody else did, so I did too.

But as I listened to NPR they started saying things that I wasn't totally comfortable with. Although I considered NPR my "friends" on the radio, I started to wonder about some of the things they were saying. Some things didn't fit well with my moral compass. I agreed with most of the things they said, but I was also a critical thinker. I was part of the Philosophy club in high school and it taught me to think critically about ideas that were presented, regardless of the source. So I used those skills that I learned in philosophy class when I listened to NPR, and I began to come to the conclusion that maybe I didn't 100% agree with the ideas they were proposing to me. Most of them I agreed with, but some of them I didn't agree with.

Then, the more I listened, the more I realized that some of the ideas that they embraced actually completely went against my moral compass. I forget exactly what the ideas were that made me have a rift with the democratic party. I voted for Obama because I wanted to vote for the first African American president. I liked him at first. He was charismatic, charming.

But when he started talking about not imposing a travel ban on people from Africa who had ebola because he didn't want to be "mean" to underprivileged people in Africa, then I knew something was wrong. I was an African American studies major in college. I admire African American culture. But I also read The Hot Zone in high school, and I knew how virulent ebola is and how horrific it was to die from that disease. Your body essentially melts from the inside. Your develop blisters and puss and bleed from your eyes. That's how the virus spreads to other people. To not impose a travel ban, and, even more, to seemingly import people from Africa to the US, made me question what was going on.

There are lots of things like this from that point forward that made me critically question the true intentions of the Democratic party. Defunding the police is one. Supporting Antifa burning down cities is another. Most people have provided themselves with logic paths in their minds to justify things that they otherwise might not be comfortable supporting. NPR and other MSM news sources actually provides logic paths for us. They are pre-packaged so we can justify these things in our own minds.

I understand all this. I believed that the people on NPR were my personal friends. They act like my friends. It's a culture. But maybe I got to the point where I started to ask myself, are they really my friends? Do they really have my best interest at heart? Do they really care about me as an individual? Are the things that they're promoting really in my best interest? That's fine. That's healthy actually. I think we all need to ask these questions to ourselves about various circumstances in life just to sustain our own existence.

Unbiased, critical thinking is necessary, no matter who the source of the information is from. Whether it's your neighbor, your teacher, your friend, your lover, or even an established institution that you trust. I would even question information provided from prestigious institutions from Harvard or Yale. Although they have prestige, the information is still coming from human beings, and human beings are fallible. We sometimes want to make allowances for things that our inner Jimmney Cricket might otherwise not feel comfortable with. But often Jimmney Cricket gets nervous and there's usually a reason for that.
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04-07-2021, 09:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-07-2021, 11:16 PM by crazyfamily.)
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NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
You’re totally irrational. Democrats are Nazis now? That’s ridiculous, just like the Republican Party.

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That, in a nutshell, sums up republicans and the Republican party. Trump has taught you all how to proliferate chaos, and that’s all you know and all you can do.


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You guys are gonna have to figure out how to act normal again. Moderates are not having it.
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04-11-2021, 07:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-11-2021, 08:03 AM by ravenhome777.)
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RE: NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
(04-07-2021, 09:58 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: You’re totally irrational. Democrats are Nazis now? That’s ridiculous, just like the Republican Party.

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That, in a nutshell, sums up republicans and the Republican party. Trump has taught you all how to proliferate chaos, and that’s all you know and all you can do.


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You guys are gonna have to figure out how to act normal again. Moderates are not having it.

Not sure why you feel the need to post all of these fake news headlines. No one listens to MSM anymore as we've all come to the realization that it's pure propaganda. If you're still listening to MSM then you really are a crazy family.

But you're right about one thing, I don't identify with the Republican party anymore. Not after they conspired to steal the 2020 election.

Also, I hope everyone is aware of the "For the People Act". This is a National Socialist power grab to permanently corrupt our election process. Everyone knows that the election was stolen in 2020. Even Time admitted that the election was stolen in an article. They brag in-depth about their clever conspiracy to overthrow the election:

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

The "For the People Act" is intended to cement this power to control election results. Americans should not support this AT ALL.

(04-06-2021, 04:22 PM)crazyfamily Wrote:
(04-06-2021, 04:10 PM)ravenhome777 Wrote:
(04-05-2021, 04:16 PM)old drum Wrote: So throwing people in camps is OK as long as it's not racially motivated?

Yep. You hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what she is saying, but I do not blame her at all. It's not her fault.

We are witnessing the NAZI-ication of the Democratic party. The slow descent into the justification of evil thought.

Here's an interesting Ted talk:
Philip Zimbardo: The psychology of evil
https://tedsummaries.com/2014/11/24/phil...y-of-evil/
Hahaha, oh, the irony. From the party that has demonized the press and media and the entire democrat party, you continue to marginalized Hispanics and blacks. No, if anyone is fascist it is extremist Republicans, like you! What exactly is the problem with being anti-fascist?

The problem with being "anti-fascist" or a member of Antifa is that it's a LIE. They are not "anti-fascist". They are the EXACT OPPOSITE of anti-fascist. They are supporting a communist take over of our country which was founded on the concepts of freedom for the people, liberty for the people and limited government. ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter are the foot soldiers in the conspiracy against our country. The are fighting for COMMUNISM and Marxism. Marxism is designed to take away rights from the people.

No doubt these brainwashed college ANTIFA members think they're doing the right thing. They truly believe that they're destroying fascists. But that is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what they're doing. They're fighting FOR FASCISTS. They're fighting against freedom. They're fighting for their own slavery. They will be enslaved once this coup against our country is complete.

The minds of our youth are easily manipulated. They have been manipulated through the school systems. They are teaching Marxism in schools today. They do not teach the history of our country. These kids have been brainwashed by their liberal professors. They are fighting for tyranny. America was designed by our forefathers to prevent tyranny. That was the whole point of the Revolutionary War. We wanted freedom from England which was a MONARCHY. That means TOTAL TYRANNY.

The wealthy people in this world want to overthrow our country so they can get back to having a monarchy. Only this time, it will be a world-wide monarchy. There will be no America for the people to escape to.

So, I am FOR anti-fascism. Therefore, I am FOR America. Therefore, I am against ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter, because they are complicit in the controlled demolition of our country, which stands for freedom and liberty and justice for all.
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04-11-2021, 09:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-11-2021, 10:31 PM by crazyfamily.)
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NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
Man, there’s so much kookiness in there I’m not sure where to start.

First, I think you misinterpreted that Time article. So, Trump was right that the country was conspiring against him — by taking action to keep the election fair. The rioting that republicans wanted didn’t happen, voter suppression attempts were thwarted etc. That was, is, and should be the goal of every election.

The point of highlighting all those MSM articles that you claim are propaganda is to say that republicans don’t want you either. Trump has ruined the Republican Party. It’s quite sad to see my republican friends wondering what is happening. Many only supported Trump because they despised Hillary Clinton, now that they see Trump for what he is they are wandering aimlessly like a lost dog barking at cars.

And most ironic of all is your claim about ANTIFA. At the foundation of antifa efforts is the peaceful protest of social injustices, and that is a fundamental right under the first amendment. Communist governments do not allow that, and we’ve witnessed it often with Russia and China.

Who is attempting to squash ANTIFA? Republicans run by Donald Trump.
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04-12-2021, 09:39 PM,
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RE: NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
FIRST.... Having truck loads of ballots that are not associated with human beings driven into polling places at 3 in the morning all conveniently for Biden is not FAIR. That's cheating.

Having voting machines hooked up to the internet and injecting votes into the system to make Biden win is not FAIR.

Collecting ballots from dead people, people who have moved, people who have not voted is 20 years, and filling them out all for Biden is not FAIR.

Not allowing Republicans into polling locations, covering the windows with cardboard so no one can see, kicking out anyone who speaks out against incorrect procedures, re-running votes only for Biden time and time again, is not FAIR.

Having more people registered to vote than exist in a county is not FAIR.

Not requiring VOTER ID to vote for the President of the United States to confirm that you are, in fact, a citizen of this country, is not FAIR.

We are talking about wide spread, systemic voter corruption. This is a conspiracy of epic proportions financed with our tax dollars. Trust me. I understand that Times article ALL TOO WELL. I understand this systemic corruption very well.

The DNC is the ONLY one guilty of voter suppression. And they are EXTREMELY guilty.

I think your Republican friends know all-too-well what is happening. Conspirators within our country have performed a successful coup against a sitting president. Now they are rapidly transforming our Republic into a Communist Technocratic Dictatorship.

The most ironic of all is that you can even seriously claim that ANTIFA had peaceful protests!!! How blind and misguided are you? Seriously. There are reporters standing in front of burning buildings, with looters running around with stolen goods, and shop owners desperately trying to protect their stores, and the reports are telling you "It's a mostly peaceful protest" and you BELIEVE THEM! That's like someone holding up a black card in front of your face and telling you its a white card, and you believe it's white because they say so!! How sick and demented are you?

And you're dam lucky we're attempting to squash ANTIFA. They are anarchists hell-bent on destroying our Republic. What is wrong with you? Why are you supporting criminals? Why are you supporting theft, looting, arson and rioting? Those are all very negative things that are destroying liberty, freedom and justice. You are not supporting anything GOOD. You are supporting EVIL. Those are EVIL activities. Why are you supporting EVIL?
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04-12-2021, 09:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-12-2021, 11:29 PM by crazyfamily.)
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NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
Wide spread bullshit. Hey, if you guys are such a majority force, then bring it. Otherwise, it’s total, wide-spread bullshit. Republicans controlled everything in the last administration except for one thing...the American people.

The fact is there is no wide-spread fraud as supported by election officials, state courts, and the Supreme Court...Trump appointed justices no less. Can you guys cry any louder? Georgian Republican election officials recounted the ballots three times and found no wide-spread fraud. Face it...you’re wrong.

You want to support the constitution? Then accept the decision of the Supreme Court. Otherwise, YOU and your cohorts are insurrectionists. You’re a disgrace to the founders, the constitution, the legislature, the courts, the american people and yourselves.

Please, take some time off and figure it out.
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04-14-2021, 04:01 AM,
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RE: NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, ju
(04-12-2021, 09:48 PM)crazyfamily Wrote: Wide spread bullshit. Hey, if you guys are such a majority force, then bring it. Otherwise, it’s total, wide-spread bullshit. Republicans controlled everything in the last administration except for one thing...the American people.

The fact is there is no wide-spread fraud as supported by election officials, state courts, and the Supreme Court...Trump appointed justices no less. Can you guys cry any louder? Georgian Republican election officials recounted the ballots three times and found no wide-spread fraud. Face it...you’re wrong.

You want to support the constitution? Then accept the decision of the Supreme Court. Otherwise, YOU and your cohorts are insurrectionists. You’re a disgrace to the founders, the constitution, the legislature, the courts, the american people and yourselves.

Please, take some time off and figure it out.

I'm fine with being an insurrectionist. Insurrectionist principles were what this country was founded upon. This country was the original rebellion. We rebelled against a tyrannical monarchy to create a country based on freedom, liberty and justice for all. You're acting as if your National Socialist rebellion is fighting against tyrants, but it's actually fighting FOR the tyrants. It's a pro-government movement. The people in office want to take away the liberty that your forefathers granted for you and that your great great grandfathers fought and died to give you. You don't respect and appreciate how valuable these freedoms are, but you will understand them once they're taken away. It won't be long now.
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