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Codes and Cyphers
07-28-2019, 03:08 PM,
RE: Codes and Cyphers
(07-23-2014, 05:27 AM)astree Wrote: .



"5"



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<b>Quote from chunks on July 22, 2014, 10:02 pm</b>

I have found some significant and very often repeated numbers. What is it with five? All these scrapbooks are focused on this digit?
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If you look at the 5th letter of each line in the 5th stanza, you will know why .. or at least a part.



By the way, "Y" is the 25th letter, 5 x 5



astree

Ok this is so strange! I had not read this before I started talking to you...
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07-29-2019, 11:09 AM,
RE: Codes and Cyphers
(07-29-2019, 09:36 AM)Newbie Wrote: I noticed yesterday that anagrams of the words Cloves and Olives may contain the word Solve.

For example, cloves anagram = solve c

Olives anagram = solve i

I would like to know if there’s such a thing in the cipher world as a c code or a cipher technique that involves the letter c? Or I?

Thanks in advance

Hi,

I don't know of any standard "c" code technique, but wouldn't ignore finds like you have. the "c" could be used. For example, in the Fandango puzzle, it is used for "see" and "sea".

In this puzzle, it is possible that (what i would view as) an accessory interpretation of "look quickly down your quest to see ease" (and several other uses).

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07-29-2019, 01:51 PM,
RE: Codes and Cyphers
if someone mentioned a letter and cipher key

then i think the most common thing you'd connect it to is your basic ROT "N" cipher

were N is the value you are shifting in the alphabet

so C is ROT 3 and I is ROT 9

i've tried some ciphers in the poem but never saw anything that made the light go off in my head so to speak

but it did make me think of how this country's forefathers were very patriotic and were very much the opposite of fearful in that they were brave

and some of them were known

to use cipher keys in sending important messages
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08-18-2019, 08:41 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-18-2019, 05:42 PM by astree.)
RE: Codes and Cyphers
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(08-17-2019, 04:32 PM)mrknow Wrote: And other hint I'm seeing in the poem is the words that are on the left edge of the 5th and 6th stanzas. SIT and SAT. Possibly relating to Father on the Banco. Has Astree already made note of that? Maybe the edges and borders he alludes to are regarding the outermost part of the poem.

I think i posted it, and deleted, several weeks ago.

The reflective SIT / SAT was noted.

In context of the stanza 5 ....

So WHY i SIT that I must go ... Ive done ITTI red and now im WEAK

Just

S
A
T

I
S

Y (why)

This provides partial answer to the question. Tired, sitting around. SAT(urday) makes it a week?

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08-18-2019, 10:49 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-18-2019, 10:57 AM by mrknow.)
RE: Codes and Cyphers
Thanks astree. Have you done a BOTG search lately?

Curious about the beginning being the end and how the first and last lines of the poem could be related. Gone alone = solo or one, one
Title = king

Maybe king solomon?
Or eleven plus gold = 1179

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So, if I understand, the majority of recent comments lean toward using the poem "as is" and finding the correct relationship / interpretation of the words ?



If we were looking at that idea / hypothesis in a scientific way, wouldn't it be correct to say that the data generated (many searches, trying to do that for years) indicates that is NOT an approach that is probable to produce a result?



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08-20-2019, 05:48 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-20-2019, 05:50 AM by astree.)
RE: Codes and Cyphers
(08-18-2019, 11:10 PM)fallingrock Wrote: https://emergencemagazine.org/story/counter-mapping/

"For thousands of years, the names of places were interwoven with experiences and stories of the landscape. Increasingly, younger generations do not know the original names of—nor the original connection to—culturally significant places...."

when I convince myself I need something

AS I HAVE GONE ALONE IN THERE

I LEAVE A SAGE INTRO, ‘N ONE ‘HE’ (tHEre .... tre ...)
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08-20-2019, 09:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-20-2019, 01:55 PM by John Brown.)
RE: Codes and Cyphers
(08-20-2019, 05:48 AM)astree Wrote:
(08-18-2019, 11:10 PM)fallingrock Wrote: https://emergencemagazine.org/story/counter-mapping/

"For thousands of years, the names of places were interwoven with experiences and stories of the landscape. Increasingly, younger generations do not know the original names of—nor the original connection to—culturally significant places...."

when I convince myself I need something

AS I HAVE GONE ALONE IN THERE

I LEAVE A SAGE INTRO, ‘N ONE ‘HE’ (tHEre .... tre ...)

I actually think that research is required (EDIT TO FIX TYPO). By "research" I decidedly don't mean random google searches.

I think it's even worse than what fallingrock quoted above: "younger generations don't know the original names." It's not only that younger generations do not know the original names, in my experience most people don't know the current names of the places where they live, much less the names the Indians gave those places. The research I refer to was hours spent reading maps and then doing a little poor man's machine learning on those maps.
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08-20-2019, 10:14 AM,
Codes and Cyphers
"You need to read the clues in my book, and study the clues, and get a good map and try to marry the map to a certain place, and research it, and then get in your pickup truck and go out there and look for it..."

He said research it. No one seems to care.




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09-01-2019, 06:06 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-01-2019, 06:07 AM by astree.)
RE: Codes and Cyphers
(08-31-2019, 10:47 PM)Newbie Wrote: Does the poem contain any palindromes or letter sequences? I’m not seeing much besides these two examples:
dra INGNI gh
done ITTI red, and no W I(m) W eak

You caught the two that Im familiar with. Heres something more on your second example.

To do IT tired means to have done IT a lot.

so why is ITT ha TI must go

T he answers i alread YKNOW< (check definition of wonky)
I ve done ITTI red

It
Tired

In fact, if you look at the 11th letter in each line of that stanza, you will see a TI on top of the ITTI.

I dont think that alone is going to get you far, but i believe that by studying the poem, you might begin to wonder if there is more to it than meets the eye.
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