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Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
06-16-2015, 04:00 PM,
#1
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
...I was wondering if you would be so bold as to give an estimate of how far you walked to hide the treasure after leaving your car: was it >10miles, between 5 and 10 miles, between 1 and 5 miles, or less than 1 mile?



<i>"Ron, your question sounds like a travelogue, but I’ll answer it. No, I don’t want to be that bold. But I will say that I walked less than a few miles if that will help. I just looked “few” up and one definition is “scant.” Why do I sound like I’m talking in circles? f"</i>



<i>"I made two trips from my car to the hiding place and it was done in one afternoon.”



"I took the gold in one time and I took the treasure chest in the second time."



"When I hid that treasure chest there was nobody around."



“There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure."</i>





The most peculiar part of the phrase is the use of "very". I'll skip the misspelled word for now. Close proximity is already close, so the "very" implies perhaps even less distance, or something else...



When Forrest uses the word "trail" here I believe that he most likely followed a hiking trail, and less likely a jeep trail. I don't think he was talking about a paved road, even though you might stretch the definition to include that as a human trail. And I do not think that he was making a clever statement about a horse trail or some other type of trail.



I also do not believe that Forrest bushwacked the whole way from the car to the hiding spot, at least not through heavy duty forest, unless it was a relatively short distance. Certainly not several miles of bushwacking. I don't think he would send families out into that kind of challenge. If it was mostly open land, or sparse forest, that's a stronger possibility.



Forrest said that he walked "less than a few miles" from the treasure <i>after leaving your car</i>. If we know he took two trips, which he discussed at least twice, it sounds like he is talking about going less than a few miles from the car to the spot, not from the car to the spot to the car to the spot. It is the distance from the car to the spot. Some may disagree with this, and think it's the total distance.



I also think he said "less than a few miles" because it is close to a few miles (you can define a few). I don't think he is intentionally overshooting it to mislead people. For example, 300', or even 30', is less than a few miles, but it's illogical to express it that way unless you were being extremely vague or misleading. I have made my own interpretation of less than a few miles, and I'm sure you have made yours.



So I believe that there is a human trail. This would include old, non-identified trails, and also established identified trails. I believe he gets off the trail to get to the spot that he explored some time ago. This is a common theme in Forrest's life, the concept of the path less taken, or going it his own way.

Something special pulled him from that trail. I think his words hint at this, in both comments and in the poem.



Getting back to Pooka's original 200' to 500', I think that is reasonably in the pocket. My hunch is that anything less than 100' is probably in very close proximity. I feel that the outer limit would have to be less than 1,000', but probably closer to Pooka's limit, despite the fact that someone might put no limit on a distance that is NOT in very close proximity.



I'm basing these thoughts on Forrest's words and my studies in the chase, but more importantly on what he is telling in the poem.



But to be fair, the phrase “There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure” could also mean there is no human trail remotely near it. From most interpretations I have read, I think the reading is that while there is no human trail in very close proximaty to the treasure, it's just beyond that region. It's the feel of the statement, and the hint of a trail.



Halogetter

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06-16-2015, 04:11 PM,
#2
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?


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<b>Quote from Pooka on June 16, 2015, 5:00 pm</b>

“There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure”. f



I have a good location between 200 and 500 feet from a human trail. Just wondering what everyone's thoughts/speculations are on what Forrest means by "very close proximity". Yes, I know he could mean anything, I am fishing for best guesses.



Thanks.
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I asked Fenn this exact thing, and he called me an ant Wink



http://mysteriouswritings.com/whats-clos...h-forrest/



Good luck on getting an answer.
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06-16-2015, 04:30 PM,
#3
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
Hi Pooka,



In my opinion, I think the glory spot should be at least within 500 of a human trail.



Those several people who didn't know how close they were to the treasure were probably on a human trail of some kind.



Mr. Fenn once provided a picture of his lure Pickles, who was about one body-length away from the other lures, and he described that distance as not close proximity (although not in those words).



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06-16-2015, 04:44 PM,
#4
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
I'd say that's plenty far enough.

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06-16-2015, 04:49 PM,
#5
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
This is a good one. Again, all in how you look at it.

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06-16-2015, 05:20 PM,
#6
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
The problem that you get into is 'human trail.' Which I think is very different than a road, most likely a 4X4 road. I've thought about this a lot since I asked the question. I think the TC will be found within 1/2 to 1 1/2 miles of a four wheel drive road, and as far as human hiking trails there probably won't be one within 20 miles.
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06-16-2015, 05:55 PM,
#7
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
Hi Pooka, Mr. Fenn has already given us the answer when he said that searchers had been within 200 feet of the chest, because he also said that those same searchers had no idea that the chest was there, (meaning they would not have been off ) whatever path there was.
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06-16-2015, 07:41 PM,
#8
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
Milan, Muset, Old Drum, Hank, Buddy and James, thanks for the great answers.
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06-16-2015, 08:59 PM,
#9
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
...I was wondering if you would be so bold as to give an estimate of how far you walked to hide the treasure after leaving your car: was it >10miles, between 5 and 10 miles, between 1 and 5 miles, or less than 1 mile?



<i>"Ron, your question sounds like a travelogue, but I’ll answer it. No, I don’t want to be that bold. But I will say that I walked less than a few miles if that will help. I just looked “few” up and one definition is “scant.” Why do I sound like I’m talking in circles? f"</i>



<i>"I made two trips from my car to the hiding place and it was done in one afternoon.”



"I took the gold in one time and I took the treasure chest in the second time."



"When I hid that treasure chest there was nobody around."



“There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure."</i>





The most peculiar part of the phrase is the use of "very". I'll skip the misspelled word for now. Close proximity is already close, so the "very" implies perhaps even less distance, or something else...



When Forrest uses the word "trail" here I believe that he most likely followed a hiking trail, and less likely a jeep trail. I don't think he was talking about a paved road, even though you might stretch the definition to include that as a human trail. And I do not think that he was making a clever statement about a horse trail or some other type of trail.



I also do not believe that Forrest bushwacked the whole way from the car to the hiding spot, at least not through heavy duty forest, unless it was a relatively short distance. Certainly not several miles of bushwacking. I don't think he would send families out into that kind of challenge. If it was mostly open land, or sparse forest, that's a stronger possibility.



Forrest said that he walked "less than a few miles" from the treasure <i>after leaving your car</i>. If we know he took two trips, which he discussed at least twice, it sounds like he is talking about going less than a few miles from the car to the spot, not from the car to the spot to the car to the spot. It is the distance from the car to the spot. Some may disagree with this, and think it's the total distance.



I also think he said "less than a few miles" because it is close to a few miles (you can define a few). I don't think he is intentionally overshooting it to mislead people. For example, 300', or even 30', is less than a few miles, but it's illogical to express it that way unless you were being extremely vague or misleading. I have made my own interpretation of less than a few miles, and I'm sure you have made yours.



So I believe that there is a human trail. This would include old, non-identified trails, and also established identified trails. I believe he gets off the trail to get to the spot that he explored some time ago. This is a common theme in Forrest's life, the concept of the path less taken, or going it his own way.

Something special pulled him from that trail. I think his words hint at this, in both comments and in the poem.



Getting back to Pooka's original 200' to 500', I think that is reasonably in the pocket. My hunch is that anything less than 100' is probably in very close proximity. I feel that the outer limit would have to be less than 1,000', but probably closer to Pooka's limit, despite the fact that someone might put no limit on a distance that is NOT in very close proximity.



I'm basing these thoughts on Forrest's words and my studies in the chase, but more importantly on what he is telling in the poem.



But to be fair, the phrase “There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure” could also mean there is no human trail remotely near it. From most interpretations I have read, I think the reading is that while there is no human trail in very close proximaty to the treasure, it's just beyond that region. It's the feel of the statement, and the hint of a trail.



Halogetter

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06-17-2015, 01:23 AM,
#10
Thoughts on treasures distance from a "human trail"?
Lots of good thoughts. :-) Like i said once before, .....we may never know what hints there may be in his statements and stories, but at least we know what each other think, and that could really perhaps be helpful in figuring it out.



I'll just add, .....Halo and Muset, i concur, actually i agree with most of what has been said here so far, and i will say this: .....How did he know such an EXACT DISTANCE?? Because there is something identifiable from home close to the chest and thus he can measure it from there. I mean, it's not that big of a deal, but it is promising, because it helps ELIMINATE. :-)

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