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Expedition Unknown.
12-03-2015, 11:41 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2015, 11:42 AM by The_Spoiler.)
RE: Expedition Unknown.
He is selling books related to a game of skill and that requires him to follow the law in New Mexico and nationally under the FTC. A treasure hunt is not exempt from the requirement. Look at every other treasure hunt. They all have official rules. They could shut the hunt down and require that all money earned from the sell of the books be returned and penalties could be assessed as well.

If he was not selling books related to the hunt, he might be able to get around it.
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12-03-2015, 11:50 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2015, 11:51 AM by DaisyMae.)
RE: Expedition Unknown.
I understand the point you're trying to make but you're missing the big picture. FF never said you had to buy the book to find the chest. That's a legal distinction that makes the chase different from almost every recent treasure hunt. Finding a loophole in existing law is the bread-and-butter of attorneys. I personally believe FF has found of couple of beauties in creating the chase.

If you think this law means you don't get to keep the chest if it's found in NM, then don't search NM. Find a solve in an area that betters your chances of keeping what you find.

And before you go around invoking federal law you might want to brush up on the limited circumstances in which federal preemption applies as opposed to when individual states still maintain the right to craft state specific laws.
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12-03-2015, 12:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2015, 12:14 PM by Woody Bogg.)
RE: Expedition Unknown.
(12-03-2015, 11:50 AM)DaisyMae Wrote: I understand the point you're trying to make but you're missing the big picture. FF never said you had to buy the book to find the chest. That's a legal distinction that makes the chase different from almost every recent treasure hunt. Finding a loophole in existing law is the bread-and-butter of attorneys. I personally believe FF has found of couple of beauties in creating the chase.

If you think this law means you don't get to keep the chest if it's found in NM, then don't search NM. Find a solve in an area that betters your chances of keeping what you find.

And before you go around invoking federal law you might want to brush up on the limited circumstances in which federal preemption applies as opposed to when individual states still maintain the right to craft state specific laws.
One of the oldest laws on the books .. You do not have to disclose the whereabouts of the treasure . Always claim that they don't have jurisdiction over the matter and make them prove otherwise.( Almost Impossible)
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12-03-2015, 12:11 PM,
Expedition Unknown.
(12-03-2015, 12:00 PM)Woody Bogg Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 11:50 AM)DaisyMae Wrote: I understand the point you're trying to make but you're missing the big picture. FF never said you had to buy the book to find the chest. That's a legal distinction that makes the chase different from almost every recent treasure hunt. Finding a loophole in existing law is the bread-and-butter of attorneys. I personally believe FF has found of couple of beauties in creating the chase.

If you think this law means you don't get to keep the chest if it's found in NM, then don't search NM. Find a solve in an area that betters your chances of keeping what you find.

And before you go around invoking federal law you might want to brush up on the limited circumstances in which federal preemption applies as opposed to when individual states still maintain the right to craft state specific laws.
One of the oldest laws on the books .. You do not have to disclose the whereabouts of the treasure .

Your comment triggered a funny comic strip scene in my brain.
FF on the witness stand being told by a judge that he has to disclose the chest location or face being held in contempt and going to jail.
FF's response...'Well, your honor, I won't tell you where it is but I can assure you it isn't associated with any water gate'.

But maybe that's only funny to meSmile
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12-03-2015, 12:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2015, 12:23 PM by Woody Bogg.)
RE: Expedition Unknown.
(12-03-2015, 12:11 PM)DaisyMae Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 12:00 PM)Woody Bogg Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 11:50 AM)DaisyMae Wrote: I understand the point you're trying to make but you're missing the big picture. FF never said you had to buy the book to find the chest. That's a legal distinction that makes the chase different from almost every recent treasure hunt. Finding a loophole in existing law is the bread-and-butter of attorneys. I personally believe FF has found of couple of beauties in creating the chase.

If you think this law means you don't get to keep the chest if it's found in NM, then don't search NM. Find a solve in an area that betters your chances of keeping what you find.

And before you go around invoking federal law you might want to brush up on the limited circumstances in which federal preemption applies as opposed to when individual states still maintain the right to craft state specific laws.
One of the oldest laws on the books .. You do not have to disclose the whereabouts of the treasure .

Your comment triggered a funny comic strip scene in my brain.
FF on the witness stand being told by a judge that he has to disclose the chest location or face being held in contempt and going to jail.
FF's response...'Well, your honor, I won't tell you where it is but I can assure you it isn't associated with any water gate'.

But maybe that's only funny to meSmile
That is funny!!! Nobody said you couldn't be held in contempt!!

(12-03-2015, 12:15 PM)Woody Bogg Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 12:11 PM)DaisyMae Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 12:00 PM)Woody Bogg Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 11:50 AM)DaisyMae Wrote: I understand the point you're trying to make but you're missing the big picture. FF never said you had to buy the book to find the chest. That's a legal distinction that makes the chase different from almost every recent treasure hunt. Finding a loophole in existing law is the bread-and-butter of attorneys. I personally believe FF has found of couple of beauties in creating the chase.

If you think this law means you don't get to keep the chest if it's found in NM, then don't search NM. Find a solve in an area that betters your chances of keeping what you find.

And before you go around invoking federal law you might want to brush up on the limited circumstances in which federal preemption applies as opposed to when individual states still maintain the right to craft state specific laws.
One of the oldest laws on the books .. You do not have to disclose the whereabouts of the treasure .

Your comment triggered a funny comic strip scene in my brain.
FF on the witness stand being told by a judge that he has to disclose the chest location or face being held in contempt and going to jail.
FF's response...'Well, your honor, I won't tell you where it is but I can assure you it isn't associated with any water gate'.

But maybe that's only funny to meSmile
That is funny!!! Nobody said you couldn't be held in contempt!!
Well you do have the right to remain silent!! Case dismissed!!!
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12-03-2015, 12:19 PM,
RE: Expedition Unknown.
I picture ff saying in a Richard Nixon voice 'I am not a hound dog.'
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12-03-2015, 12:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-03-2015, 12:36 PM by DaisyMae.)
Expedition Unknown.
Hmmm...could canyon down be a hint to follow our own 'deep throat' that whispers on the blogs for us to listen good? Maybe there are "felt" references to explore. Lol!
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12-03-2015, 12:31 PM,
RE: Expedition Unknown.
follow the money. ff at the wh (waters halt)
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12-03-2015, 04:03 PM,
RE: Expedition Unknown.
(12-03-2015, 03:58 PM)mountain digger Wrote:
(12-03-2015, 11:41 AM)The_Spoiler Wrote: He is selling books related to a game of skill and that requires him to follow the law in New Mexico and nationally under the FTC. A treasure hunt is not exempt from the requirement. Look at every other treasure hunt. They all have official rules. They could shut the hunt down and require that all money earned from the sell of the books be returned and penalties could be assessed as well.

If he was not selling books related to the hunt, he might be able to get around it.

OFFICIAL RULES - TTOTC

Rule #1: There are no rules.

Precisely! And that is why I love this hunt.
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12-03-2015, 08:04 PM,
RE: Expedition Unknown.
Here is the video from the show of Expedition Unknown with Josh Gates: Finding Fenn's Fortune

http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/exped...ns-fortune

Happy Hunting!
So Mote It Be!
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