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Treasure hunter missing
01-16-2016, 09:51 AM,
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01-16-2016, 09:57 AM,
RE: Treasure hunter missing
(01-16-2016, 09:51 AM)LostFound Wrote:

Very sad to read. My prayers are with him.
01-16-2016, 10:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-16-2016, 10:05 AM by illinoisghost.)
RE: Treasure hunter missing
(01-16-2016, 09:51 AM)LostFound Wrote:
Preying for Randy and hoping this ends well. Everyone please take Forrest's advise and wait until spring.
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01-16-2016, 10:06 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-16-2016, 10:08 AM by LostFound.)
RE: Treasure hunter missing
What FF says in the article is a little misleading... To my knowledge hasn't overtly said don't search in winter. He's hinted around it, but in ways (like the engines comment) that people take as clues. He's also said that if you know precisely where it is you can probably retrieve it in any weather.

In the end I guess people will make their own decisions. A solo rafting trip in winter when you've never rafted before isn't the best idea. I hope Randy comes out alright. Edit: He's been missing for 10 days (I hadn't counted yet... ) seems like this is just a sad story, folks.
01-16-2016, 10:28 AM,
RE: Treasure hunter missing
Wow...very sad.
Mindy's YouTube Channel and blog:
01-16-2016, 11:30 AM,
RE: Treasure hunter missing
The picture of Randy and his dog posted in the Santa Fe New Mexican I feel sure I've seen as someone's gravitar on Dal's blog. If he's a blogger maybe we can look for his blog posts to get an idea of where in the gorge he may havebeen headed. I just have my phone at present making it hard to navigate.
01-16-2016, 11:34 AM,
RE: Treasure hunter missing
(01-16-2016, 11:27 AM)admin Wrote: I know that some aren't sure that Boo took his own life in great part because of this, but I 100% do as we were conversing by email before he did. If this man doesn't make me this will be two.

Could be some haven't taken their own lives because of this.
Just like the poem, you can read into it what you want.
01-16-2016, 11:47 AM,
RE: Treasure hunter missing
(01-16-2016, 11:38 AM)admin Wrote: @Boomer not going to get into that all that much, but when he told me this had gotten to be too much for him mentally and financially and then said he will be getting some much needed rest....I know what my opinion is.

Not challenging your opinion Steph, I don't even know Boo.

ALL of the searchers I've met, talk about how fulfilling the Chase has been for them, and how their lives have been enriched.
01-16-2016, 11:54 AM,
RE: Treasure hunter missing
Life is full of choices. How you use that freedom to choose is what matters to you and others.
01-16-2016, 12:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-16-2016, 12:53 PM by John Brown.)
RE: Treasure hunter missing
The river is very gentle in that area. There is a single class 3 rapid at Ancho Canyon which is about 5 miles downstream from where they found his truck. The temperature would be much warmer than the Taos temperature that Ricky reported. I don't know what the lowest temperature has been on the river at Buckman crossing but my educated guess is that it has been closer to 20F than to 0F. If he didn't have to swim the Ancho Canyon rapid he might well still be alive.

A quarter century ago I got talked into running that stretch of water in an open canoe with my brother and his two boys. For me it was one of the worst mistakes I've ever made and I've made plenty. My brother was visiting with his family from the east coast. I'd told him that if I could get time to explore the river maybe we could run it. I hadn't had time. It was right after I moved to NM. I told him wouldn't go but got talked into it. When we got to the put-in at Otowi crossing the water was high because of rain. I'd never run that stretch of river before but the waves at Otowi were higher than I'd ever seen them. I said again we couldn't go and once again got talked into it. When we ran the Ancho Canyon rapid the boat tipped over. My brother and his elder son came up next to shore and got out. The younger boy who was mentally handicapped did not appear. I asked my brother if he had the younger boy. "No" he replied. Then he and the older boy who was about 14 made their way to shore. By this time the canoe was a hundred yards downstream upside down and moving fast. At that point I went into overdrive. I remembered reading an article about the airspace in an upside down canoe being big enough to hold someone. It wasn't so much remembering it though. It was more like the magazine was in front of me and I was reading it word for word. It was a very weird experience. Anyway, I swam to the canoe. I reached in and pulled him out. "I don't like this feeling" he said. That is when the worst part started. Downstream from Ancho canyon there were high standing waves. The boy had his arms around my neck and I could just barely get air. Each time we hit a wave I'd get sucked under. Then I'd surface just in time to grab another breath before hitting the next wave. Eventually I worked our way to shore and we made it to a rock a few feet from shore. I was cursing like a drunken sailor the whole time. I lifted him on to that rock with one arm but didn't have the strength to get on it myself for a good 5 minutes. We sat there for a long time. At some point a military helicopter came down and hovered next to us but I didn't want to look at it because of the spray. I was in shock and stupid. The helicopter left and my brother and his elder son eventually appeared on the far shore. Until they saw us they'd thought we were both dead. The younger boy and I then made our way the last few feet to shore after I recovered my strength and wits. Neither one of us had shoes on. I think my river shoes had gotten knocked off. I put him on my shoulders and walked downstream through that rattle snake infested canyon. After about a half hour a state police helicopter showed up and carried us down to Cochiti dam where we met our wives. For the boys it was a big thrill that they love to tell about. For me it is very painful memory of a really stupid action.

In any event just after the Ancho Canyon rapids the river becomes flat water because it is flowing into Cochiti Reservoir. Paddling to Cochiti is a long haul by boat. Frijoles, which runs through Bandolier National Monument, is the next canyon downstream from Ancho. He probably was doing something related to Bandolier. He might be ok. The thing is that the Ancho rapid is not that big of a deal in a raft. In low water it is less of a big deal. The water should be low. They found both the dog and the raft 9 miles downstream from his put-in at Buckman crossing. The water down there would be totally flat. He likely hiked into a side canyon, perhaps Frijoles or some other canyon. Frijoles is less than 9 miles downstream from Buckman crossing. He might have overshot and then hiked back up to Frijoles. Or who knows what? I think he has a reasonable chance of being alive if he had any cold weather gear and a dry bag. The fact that they found the dog is not a good sign though. I'm more worried that he climbed up into something he couldn't down climb and fell. Prayers to him.

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