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Stumble upon it accidentally.
01-05-2017, 07:48 PM,
Stumble upon it accidentally.
trip or momentarily lose one's balance; almost fall.
"her foot caught a shoe and she stumbled"
synonyms: trip (over/up), lose one's balance, lose/miss one's footing, slip
"she stumbled and fell heavily"

By definition and context, it's in a place you literally cannot trip over it. Thus, it cannot be in the open. If it was in the open, you could stumble upon it.
01-05-2017, 08:36 PM,
Stumble upon it accidentally.
Grave..... Hmmmm

01-05-2017, 11:30 PM,
RE: Stumble upon it accidentally.
(01-05-2017, 08:36 PM)Kpro Wrote: Grave..... Hmmmm


I think you may be starting to channel Yoda. The Dark Side beckons!
01-05-2017, 11:36 PM,
Stumble upon it accidentally.
I am learning from him, and yes perhaps. I was Yoda at Halloween this year, does that count??? Haha!

01-13-2017, 12:02 AM,
Stumble upon it accidentally.
AJ, you should be embarrassed for much more than stumbling. So many have come before and many will follow IMO on the generic "I know" mantra. Good luck to you though.

01-13-2017, 07:41 AM,
RE: Stumble upon it accidentally.
(01-12-2017, 11:59 PM)Andrew Jef Wrote: The TC is not on a human trail, and won't literally be tripped over -- or,
in other words, "stumbled upon". While hiking, however, I strongly suggest that you walk carefully. The ground is pretty uneven near the TC. I know this from experience, and am embarrassed -- but willing -- to admit that I fell 3 times during my first search trip. I don't want this to happen to others, particularly out in the wilderness, where one's cellphone may be unable to summon emergency help.

But the location, not "in close proximaty" to a human trail, is such that
a random hiker, explorer, or searcher won't see the TC for hundreds or
thousands of years, unless specifically searching for it. And only after
solving the poem (or at least following the directions provided by someone
with a good solve).

I urge all searchers to not give up too easily. The game is likely to be over
this summer, so give yourselves some advantages that you likely haven't
yet given yourselves. Show the poem to a bunch of children of various
ages. You may be surprised at how much it helps. If you are too proud
to do this, good luck anyway. And use a dictionary to look up words that
you think you already know. I am college-educated, and still looked up
words including "warm", "halt", "canyon", "put in", "meek", "drawing", "nigh", and other words that seem quite common and ordinary. I was, of course, motivated by the value of the treasure. If you're not willing to take steps
like this, you may well keep yourself from developing a good solve.

Expect a slow dribble of info after the TC has been found, relating to how
the poem was solved. But don't expect to learn the identity of the
successful finder anytime soon. A person clever enough to solve the poem
correctly is likely to be clever enough to guard his/her identity throughout
liquidation/sale of the treasure.

Good luck to all searchers. Please emphasize safety in the Rockies!


I have two comments:

1. I do think it's possible to stumble upon it without solving the poem, but your chances are about as good as winning Powerball. I believe I was within 20 feet of stumbling on it in 2013, and I have a photo to prove it someday (imo).
2. IMO, the correct solve is WAY deeper than most people can imagine. Fenn put some serious effort (about 15 years) into perfectly, and I mean perfectly architecting this thing, imo. I believe you can't find the actual spot (precisely without stumbling) until after you solve a very complicated puzzle (that includes math) that starts at the halfway point in the poem, and as a result of finding additional clues that can only be obtained with BOTG, imo.

Good luck, and please be safe!

01-13-2017, 09:17 AM,
RE: Stumble upon it accidentally.
(01-12-2017, 11:59 PM)Andrew Jef Wrote: While hiking, however, I strongly suggest that you walk carefully. The ground is pretty uneven near the TC.

And being lost in the mountains just isn't funny - they are hill areas.


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