THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS

[fundamental design]

Timebandit, good stuff. I've been rooting for you for along time. One little aspect I wanted to add is that i have been thinking that if hints exist to help with the first clue I don't mean they point out directly the wwwh like you couldn't find. Just that they point to a specific area which then gets further refined by the first clue and so on. Yep, a work in progress. I wish you well in your journey and enjoy your thinking.

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fd I believe that you should prostrate yourself before the entire chase world and beg for forgiveness. You spent the last 4 years preaching to anyone who would listen that stanza 1 is the most important. Well we all now know what clue one is and any credibility you ever had is gone. Maybe ff told us what the first clue is because he was pissed you were leading so many people astray. Hate to say I told you so but I've been biting my tongue for too long now. Stanza one people............yikes.........sad.

Let's review what Chris Yates had to say on the subject here as he says always says it more elegantly than me except when he doesn't capitalize letters or that punctuation thing. Pretty reasonable stuff...after you read it then see how you feel.

imo, he is saying that there is a way to logically deduce what is the one wwwh that the poem is referring to

f spent years working on this, and thought about this, and he knew that he was writing a poem that could be seen to have many different meanings. and he knew that to make the poem logically solvable to one spot, the foundation of the first clue would need to be in place, such that it could only logically be one place, if you crack that particular clue

how else would you do it? unless one thinks he spent 15 years for this to be just a guessing game, and the treasure to be essentially unfindable

if you dont have the first clue, and understand what that means and how it brings you to the right general area, forget about it. keep working on it, until you do

but if you do have it, other clues can begin to be narrowed down. and if you see otter creek in the poem, and there is one otter creek in that area, well now you can begin the process of marrying clues to the map and proceeding further in the puzzle

but thats really putting the horse before the cart

and so, how do you logically put in hints to the right general area. hints at the first clue. something that would isolate it from all the other incorrect areas

i first thought about this a few years back, and i concluded there are a few ways. not too many.

imo, f used all of them in the poem. all the ones i could think of, anyway

there is one, imo, that stands above the others. and the entire poem is used to repeat the same information. multiple times in multiple layers

and it was all put there, to confirm the correct starting general area, imo

think about something that would identify a particular area, such that it could only be that area, and not be interpreted different ways

but that wouldnt be enough, because you need to know that what you are seeing is a clue and the way in which you are interpreting it is correct

so the same information, unique to that one area, would need to be repeated, and given using various methods, but ultimately repeating the same information

and it would need to be seen in the poem from beginning to end

there are only a few pieces of info i think would work. that would qualify logically

people talk about them sometimes, but not very often, to be honest

it seems that people generally think that they wouldn't be significant, or for some reason they have personal unsupported bias that f wouldn't use these things as clues

even though they would be perfectly logical, and would in fact, narrow down to only one area

it's kinda wierd, but i think if i asked most searchers if they believe f wrote the poem so that it could logically be solved, they would say yes

and yet, their approach to solving the poem is like they don't really believe that

it is underestimating Fenn. underestimating that he did actually put in specific and logical clues that will positively identify

i think that if you continually approach the poem such that your approach could be used in many different places and make sense, it will start to confuse your mind. and it could make you start to think that your approach is the right one, if only you can just finally, and luckily, apply it to the right place.

but this isn't logical. and Fenn is very logical. more than most people realize.