THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS

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This from Seannm-

seannm
1 day ago#15
Fundy,

Your wrong there brother, the line just prior to the poem is not crucial to my beliefs, it supports them. I came to the conclusion that grammar, word meanings and yes punctuation were important way prior to analyzing that line and realizing that it may be hinting to structure in the poem e.g. sentences possibly being the nine clues and thus grammar, word meanings and punctuation as being important keys to following the poem precisely. So it is backwards. And is it possible that that is how the subtle clues work? I don't know because I don't put that much weight in them, because they are subject to ones confirmation bias. So again that line is not crucial it supports, thus helpful.

And yes it is true, I do not believe that the book, outside of the poem, is required in solving the poem and finding the treasure, I have been very vocal about that, could it be helpful, sure, but definitely not required in my opinion. And if you believe I am wrong and that the backstory is in fact required to solve this, then the burden of proof lies with you to prove your case, not me. So maybe focus on proving your case instead of trying to prove me wrong.

ETA: And the Q & A response, that I posted above, does seem to clearly imply that one could figure this thing out with just the poem, a good map, and a decent knowledge of geography, does it not? So then it is possible that the backstory, while potentially helpful, is not in fact required? Again this statement from Forrest is not crucial to my solve or theories, it only supports them.

Happy New year to you both, and may it be a peaceful one.

Seannm

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It doesn’t matter if it’s backwards and I never said that part of your thinking came first. It doesn’t have to come first to be crucial or important to your chain of reasoning. Just that it’s what you’ve said and continue to say here. Like I said, you have specifically pointed to that colon in the book and hence, that line, to help articulate your reasoning for thinking the nine clues are the nine sentences. So, I’m not wrong. By the way, when I say vital I also mean important. Important just doesn’t have the sizzle as the word vital does in a title and I can’t put both in the title. Not trying that hard, I’m using creativity in my titles.

But, sure I think it will be vital to figure out the hints before anyone knows with “certainty” that they have any of the clues correct...especially the first clue. Don’t think it’s gonna happen any other way from what f has alluded to. If it’s vital to have certainty beforehand (paraphrased) before finding the tc, then everything in that chain of events needs to be correct and therefore vital for success. Just basic reasoning but vital to realize it, imo.

The most important thing I utilize in my theory isn’t the nope, nope question, like you misrepresent, but f telling us what his best advice is for a serious searcher. You should know that, we’ve gone over that and you blew a gasket.

Then you say- could it be helpful, sure, but definitely not required in my opinion. And if you believe I am wrong and that the backstory is in fact required to solve this, then the burden of proof lies with you to prove your case, not me. So maybe focus on proving your case instead of trying to prove me wrong.


You’re joking? I wrote my post in response to your post which did the same thing mine did. Nice try, doesn’t work. Or, you think it works for you but no one else? I don’t get it. Also, I think I have already proven all aspects of my case about backstory since the nope, nope case has come out. That includes proof that I or Mindy didn’t come up with it. I haven’t seen anyone poke a hole in the theory yet.

You said- ETA: And the Q & A response, that I posted above, does seem to clearly imply that one could figure this thing out with just the poem, a good map, and a decent knowledge of geography, does it not? So then it is possible that the backstory, while potentially helpful, is not in fact required? Again this statement from Forrest is not crucial to my solve or theories, it only supports them.

Like I said l, you are either trying too hard or just don’t see the obvious which is right in front of you. The Q & A response that you are relying on is different than the nope, nope one...correct? And what is one of the differences between the two? In your Q & A, we get to use the whole poem. But with the “hypothetical” nope, nope question, it doesn’t allow the “whole” use of the poem if there is in fact “backstory” (or in other words, an introduction) in the poem. That’s the difference which makes it a bad example of how to reach to your conclusion by correlating the two. Try something else to discredit my ideas about the nope, nope question cause so far you haven’t found anything, imo. I think you will find out you need to reconsider your position about many of your beliefs. Maybe this is the year. It’s off to a great start.

Happy New Year to you.

My $.02.

First, I'll say I like Sean's shows and I watch almost all and have no issue with him. However, I have always found the 9 clues 9 sentences idea to be not merely an opinion I disagree with, but false based on F's statements. Forrest said Begin it WWWH is the first clue. He didn't say it is part of the first clue. IT IS the first clue. The statement "it is" is all inclusive in this context and leaves no wiggle room. I don't see a way to reconcile his belief with Fenn's statement.

With regard to the book, I agree that it is not necessary to find the chest. However, I believe it sure helps. I could walk 20 miles, but a car sure would help. Forrest said to use the book, so I use the book.