THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS

[Top Secret]

This is a write up I did on Seannm’s The Flip Side- Flip the Flip (forget the exact name...Flip the script?) with Minotaur Moreno. I’m pasting it here from another thread...

I can’t believe that Sean said he hadn’t thought about the idea that hints in the book can be found from looking for things that are abstract, that catch up in your brain as f has mentioned to us. Aberrations too. I know that I’ve mentioned that plenty of times when him and Mdavis show the way of a poem purist.

I also don’t agree with Sean that the hints in the book are soooooo subjective. I think it’s the complete opposite. The hints are the non-subjective tidbit in the chain of the correct solve. All the clues in the poem, by themselves, are the subjective problem in the Chase.

I also don’t understand Sean’s take on the subtle clues in the book weren’t deliberately placed to aid the seeker. To me, you can’t just focus in on the weren’t deliberately placed part. That’s out of context. You got to include the to aid the seeker part. That part, to me, means those subtle hints don’t act as clues in the poem. They only help the clues which we know from other f quotes. Just another way that f described it.

That brings me to my next point. Sean says the hints in the book are subjective so that’s why he sticks with the poem. But if you, or anyone, are having a tough time with just the clues, then why wouldn’t you go to the hints as f’s best advice suggests. Cause the hints “help” with the clues. I’m not saying I know how far along each searcher is in correctly figuring out the clues but how long are you gonna say I don’t need any help with the clues?...2 years, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 40 years? Don’t kid yourself.

Sean and other poem purists don’t call attention to the situation that the apparent vagueness of the poem levels out pleeeeeenty of subjectiveness in where the combinations of the nine clues can take a searcher if they don’t use a hint. I have structured my posts about the hints on not separating the hints in the book and possible hint(s) in the poem.

I do agree with Sean that the poem does provide a way to unlock the correct wwwh. I’d say that will be unlocked by a hint in the poem that is tougher to figure out than the hints in the book. But, they all will work in concert to provide the best confidence because they all lead to the same general area.

I don’t agree with Sean that it’s a waste of time to look into further mentionings in the book if something sticks up in your mind. Like Sean’s example of Robert Redford’s book. There simply is a map in the beginning of the book. What happens if something on the map corresponds to something in another example that Sean brought up...John C whatever? Did anyone check to see if John C whatever was a real student that went to f’s school at the time?

At one point Sean said something like he knows the hints in the book are subjective. I don’t agree that’s a good way to put it. You can think that, but there could be one aspect for each of the couple of hints that is non subjective. Robert Redford did write a book. Non subjective. Very subtle as it’s not even written in TTOTC that Redford did write a book. If that’s a hint somehow, it passes the test that it wasn’t deliberately placed to aid the seeker because it doesn’t get one closer to the tc than the first clue does. The first clue is where the definition of a clue starts.

Edit to add: I liked Minotaur’s ideas about the topic. One thing that I think needs to be refined is that he said maybe there’s hints in the book that apply to 9 clue locations somehow. At other times, he said he thought the hints take one to the correct general where one can find wwwh. I think this second theory is all that is needed. We don’t need added hints to help with all, or most, of the clues because the clues do that. The clues set up the next clue.

Yup, MM mopped the floor with Seannm.

This is what happened. Seannm thought he would solve this thing first try and got his hopes all up and didn't take the walk of shame too well. He burned Fenn's book in full public display in a temper tantrum. To save face, he was going to show how he is better than everyone else and jumped on the "poem purist" bandwagon.

He is now realizing the pendulum swung too far to the right. The subjective argument is crap. The poem is nothing but subjective. The book is needed to resolve ambiguity.