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THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
07-14-2019, 10:04 PM,
RE: THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
(07-14-2019, 07:54 PM)fundamental design Wrote:
(07-14-2019, 02:17 PM)Beavertooth Wrote: I believe the poem can and does define WWWH to a very high level of probability, so I think the Powerball comparison by mm is too extreme.

I agree that the poem defines wwwh to a very high level of probability. I don’t think that says anything about how to gauge the odds of how difficult it is to find the tc.

I believe the poem is the guide as I have always but not to the high degree one thinks it is. But like Bt says there are hints in ttotc that will confirm it like the poem can’t.
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07-15-2019, 11:08 AM,
RE: THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
what if the person who finds it has never read any of the books written by f? would that be what you are calling a "poem purist"?

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07-15-2019, 11:09 AM,
THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
https://youtu.be/zySmwCeFp0I



what if..?
t h e h o m e
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07-15-2019, 12:24 PM,
RE: THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
(07-15-2019, 11:09 AM)fallingrock Wrote: https://youtu.be/zySmwCeFp0I



what if..?

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07-15-2019, 02:28 PM,
RE: THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
Im sorry for all..but i have come to my conclusion of the poem. Im heading back in on the 26th to the area that all have passed.both searcher and tourist. To do this i need to use the back door. Until then i bid all adieu...
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07-15-2019, 03:19 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-15-2019, 03:31 PM by Beavertooth.)
RE: THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
(07-14-2019, 05:54 PM)Top Secret Wrote: My flawed argument is a mirror of your flawed argument. I guess I could give you another example, "So you are calling Fenn a liar?" with you telling me the hints aren't subtle.

lol

You're not listening. The hints aren't subtle once you are on the right track.

And most of the time, he is a "liar" in a sense. People misinterpret what he says. Because he challenges us to misinterpret what he says. It is his great skill. His word skills are like a magician who wants us to "look at this" while he tricks us where we are not looking. In the final analysis, he is not really lying, he is presenting us with "truth" that may be misleading. That may make the hints "subtle" to the casual reader. But if you know what he is up to, then the hints are less subtle, and often the opposite of what you think.

While I may never be the actual finder of the chest, I hope I am passing along some worthwhile insights to those who will listen.

(07-14-2019, 10:04 PM)Top Secret Wrote:
(07-14-2019, 07:54 PM)fundamental design Wrote:
(07-14-2019, 02:17 PM)Beavertooth Wrote: I believe the poem can and does define WWWH to a very high level of probability, so I think the Powerball comparison by mm is too extreme.

I agree that the poem defines wwwh to a very high level of probability. I don’t think that says anything about how to gauge the odds of how difficult it is to find the tc.

I believe the poem is the guide as I have always but not to the high degree one thinks it is. But like Bt says there are hints in ttotc that will confirm it like the poem can’t.

Hmmm. Not sure I said exactly that. I believe the poem confirms WWWH so strongly, that no hints from TTOTC are needed to further confirm it. However, there are many, many hints in TTOTC that do so. For the remaining clues, some hints from TTOTC may be useful, but are probably not necessary. I would say that Fenn spoke the truth when he said the chest location could be solved by using the poem, a good map and/or Google Earth, and ....., so I have no issue with the poem purists. They have just as good a chance as non-poem purists, in my view. In my own case, TTOTC has helped, so I would not discount it, but I now see a clear path that does not need TTOTC stories, or scrapbooks, etc.
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Yesterday, 09:35 AM, (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 09:37 AM by fundamental design.)
RE: THE HINTS- VITAL TO SUCCESS
You see the following theory about the first stanza often. I don’t agree with the overall thought that the first stanza doesn’t help in finding the treasure. There’s one opinion about one line that I especially don’t see lining up with what f did and designed...

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As I have gone alone in there and with my treasures bold, I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. As being stated by the man that hid a treasure by himself in the mountains; he’s going to keep the secret where the treasure is hidden and he is going to give hints to find the treasure chest full of new and old gold and jewels within the poem. The first stanza I took as an intro. This stanza has no clues and does not help in finding the treasure.
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And hint of riches new and old. If what f is referring to in this line is just the tc full of new and old gold and jewels then that’s a way to say that f is only hinting at a full Indulgence. If so, then read that line again.

And hint of Indulgence. We already know about Indulgence from TTOTC book. Why take up precious poem line space to reiterate that? Then you get the line of thinking the first stanza is “just” an introduction. If it’s “just” an introduction, then why do we need backstory outside of the poem to complete the find? An introduction would supply enough info to allow most anyone to figure out that the poem is a treasure quest. But, plenty of searchers act like no one can figure out that subject of the poem is a treasure hunt.

At least the searcher’s theory above that I posted feels that f is giving hints in the poem. I just think they confuse the matter by saying the first stanza does not help in finding the treasure. I think f hints in the poem only in the first stanza.

I think the riches new and old can’t only be talking about what’s only in the tc. I think f is hinting at a story of old riches AND about the Chase riches. That’s because “hinting” of Indulgence doesn’t help with the clues, imo. I think the help we get for the clues from the hints will be much more objective in how they help. Their objectivity will be one of their most important traits.


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