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decrypting the poem
01-23-2014, 02:16 PM,
#1
decrypting the poem
I thought I saw this somewhere but cant find it so here it is. Lets discuss the cipher angle and what the below info tells us. Does any of this indicate a cipher is hidden in the text? How can we be sure?



As I have gone alone in there And with my treasures bold, I can keep my secret where, And hint of riches new and old. Begin it where warm waters halt And take it in the canyon down, Not far, but too far to walk. Put in below the home of Brown. From there it's no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; There'll be no paddle up your creek, Just heavy loads and water high. If you've been wise and found the blaze, Look quickly down, your quest to cease, But tarry scant with marvel gaze, Just take the chest and go in peace. So why is it that I must go And leave my trove for all to seek? The answer I already know, I've done it tired, and now I'm weak. So hear me all and listen good, Your effort will be worth the cold. If you are brave and in the wood I give you title to the gold.



Removed spaces



629 chars

a : 49 ... 7.8 %

b : 11 ... 1.7 %

c : 12 ... 1.9 %

d : 28 ... 4.5 %

e : 82 ... 13.0 %

f : 12 ... 1.9 %

g : 11 ... 1.7 %

h : 31 ... 4.9 %

i : 36 ... 5.7 %

j : 2 ... 0.3 %

k : 11 ... 1.7 %

l : 27 ... 4.3 %

m : 11 ... 1.7 %

n : 41 ... 6.5 %

o : 50 ... 7.9 %

p : 6 ... 1.0 %

q : 2 ... 0.3 %

r : 36 ... 5.7 %

s : 23 ... 3.7 %

t : 53 ... 8.4 %

u : 17 ... 2.7 %

v : 10 ... 1.6 %

w : 23 ... 3.7 %

x : 0 ... 0.0 %

y : 15 ... 2.4 %

z : 2 ... 0.3 %





Letter frequencies



e : 82

t : 53

o : 50

a : 49

n : 41

i : 36

r : 36

h : 31

d : 28

l : 27

w : 23

s : 23

u : 17

y : 15

f : 12

c : 12

m : 11

k : 11

b : 11

g : 11

v : 10

p : 6

q : 2

j : 2

z : 2

x : 0



2 letter sequences



he => 19

th => 18

an => 15

nd => 14

ea => 14

re => 13

er => 9

ve => 9

in => 8

ow => 8

it => 8

ou => 7

ar => 7

yo => 7

ee => 6

wi => 6

to => 6

tt => 6

al => 6

st => 6

wa => 5

be => 5

ta => 5

ti => 5

no => 5

se => 5

nt => 5

go => 5

oo => 4

rt => 4

ne => 4

fo => 4

en => 4

on => 4

ll => 4

is => 4

ut => 4

or => 4

ei => 4

av => 4

ew => 4

ec => 4

e, => 4

do => 4

ld => 4

tw => 4

ur => 4

es => 4

ol => 4

lo => 4

3 letter sequences



the => 14

and => 11

you => 6

ere => 5

her => 5

old => 4

int => 4

ean => 4

4 letter sequences



here => 5

5 letter sequences

6 letter sequences

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01-23-2014, 02:32 PM,
#2
decrypting the poem
I'm not a decoder or deciphering type. So what do you do with all that information?



When it comes to numbers I see: 9 sentence. 6 stanzas, 4 lines per stanza, 24 lines.



Along with 24/25 capital letters, 25 words 1st stanza, 27 2nd, 27 3rd, 29 4th, 29 5th, 29 6th.



7567 words in each line of the 1st stanza, 6777, 8676, 8768, 8858, 7787.



I = 3



Treasure = 42



Brown = yeah right!..... There are so many numbers to the poem that I can see for solving clues, But I wouldn't even know where to start with a cypher text.
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01-23-2014, 04:39 PM,
#3
decrypting the poem
I did letter counts on both TTOTC and TFTW and Huckleberry Fenn for comparison. It was mildly interesting but in my opinion it won't help you solve the poem.
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01-23-2014, 04:46 PM,
#4
decrypting the poem
....
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01-23-2014, 05:40 PM,
#5
decrypting the poem
629 characters and 23 S's?



thats the illegal version of the poem! im having you arrested
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01-23-2014, 05:49 PM,
#6
decrypting the poem


<div class="bbcode_quote_head">Quote:
<b>Quote from mdc777 on January 23, 2014, 2:09 pm</b>

The truth of the matter Chris is that even if you posted your full solution no one would believe it, understand it or think it's correct.


</div>


no that is definitely not the case



if i posted all of the solution that i possess at this time, there would be people who read it and would be searching that spot the next day



would it be a few people or more than a few, ok i cant be sure, but at the very least a few



there are too many clues that tie together in a certain geographical area and too many other supporting hints that make too much sense.



parts of it may be somewhat elaborate, but that doesn't make it any more or less likely to be the solution because this is a million plus treasure hunt, and it can be assumed there will be great difficulty in solving. something that is elaborate and doesn't make sense (the holes in logic are too big), and something elaborate but makes a lot of sense are 2 very different things
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01-23-2014, 05:52 PM,
#7
decrypting the poem
In cryptography frequency analysis is used to decipher a cipher when the key is not known. No exact letter frequency distribution underlies a given language, since all writers write slightly differently; but it looks to me like Fenn’s writings fall close to what is considered “normal”.



Fenn's writing..........Normal

a : 49 ... 7.8%.........8.167%

b : 11 ... 1.7%.........1.492%

c : 12 ... 1.9%.........2.782%

d : 28 ... 4.5%.........4.253%

e : 82 ... 13.0%........12.702%

f : 12 ... 1.9%.........2.228%

g : 11 ... 1.7%.........2.015%

h : 31 ... 4.9%.........6.094%

i : 36 ... 5.7%.........6.966%

j : 2 ... 0.3%.........0.153%

k : 11 ... 1.7%.........0.772%

l : 27 ... 4.3%.........4.025%

m : 11 ... 1.7%.........2.406%

n : 41 ... 6.5%.........6.749%

o : 50 ... 7.9%.........7.507%

p : 6 ... 1.0%.........1.929%

q : 2 ... 0.3%.........0.095%

r : 36 ... 5.7%.........5.987%

s : 23 ... 3.7%.........6.327%

t : 53 ... 8.4%.........9.056%

u : 17 ... 2.7%.........2.758%

v : 10 ... 1.6%.........0.978%

w : 23 ... 3.7%.........2.360%

x : 0 ... 0.0%.........0.150%

y : 15 ... 2.4%.........1.974%

z : 2 ... 0.3%.........0.074%
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01-23-2014, 05:55 PM,
#8
decrypting the poem


<div class="bbcode_quote_head">Quote:
<b>Quote from Chris Yates on January 23, 2014, 5:40 pm</b>

629 characters and 23 S's?



thats the illegal version of the poem! im having you arrested
</div>


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01-23-2014, 06:09 PM,
#9
decrypting the poem
Yeahs, MDC777 went with the answer.



Halogetters
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01-23-2014, 08:48 PM,
#10
decrypting the poem
Golly. Do some people believe the poem is enciphered?
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